Antifa OSINT Profile : Violent Leftist Group – Part 1

Know the Enemy
This is part one of a three-part series briefing paper on the radical left group, Antifa, looking to overthrow President Trump and our Constitution.

Antifa Violent Radical Left
Antifa Violent Radical Left

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- There is a violent leftist uprising going on throughout the United States and also in Europe.

Most of the mainstream media sources has been ignoring this group, or they have reported it as just a “response to the alt-right”.

There seems to be a double standard when it comes to right-wing vs left-wing populist movements. To see this all you have to do is look no further than how Bernie Sanders was treated by the media vs how they treated President Trump. One was a hero of the people and the other was treated as some type of James Bond villain.

When the Tea Party began popping up during the early Obama years the media was quick to pin the “extremist” title to this group. The media worried about Tea Party violence even though there was never any Tea Party violence. In fact, the SPLC listed The Tea Party Patriots as an extremist organization although they are a purely political organization. The mainstream media has also been quick to pin violence on Trump supporters, but at the same time, it seems to give those on the left a pass for their violent acts.

There is a group on the left called Antifa that really needs to be exposed. Antifa (Anti-fascist) is both communist/anarchist extremist and violent leftist. Their goal in the United States is to install a communist government and to shut down all speech they do not agree with. George Orwell, in his book 1984 #ad, warned us about the thought police, and this is exactly what Antifa is trying to become. They have gone as far as trying to kill people with bike locks in California, but since this group is a left-wing organization working against Donald Trump most major media outlets seem silent on this issue.

Free Speech Supporter attacked by Eric Clanton
Free Speech Supporter attacked by Eric Clanton: Eric Clanton, a former adjunct professor of philosophy at Diablo Valley College in Pleasant Hill, has been arrested in connection with using a U-shaped bicycle lock to violently attack several people during an April pro-Trump rally in Berkeley, California. (YouTube/@SHUTTERSHOT45)

The so-called “Battle Of Berkeley” was the first time most people heard about the group Antifa and their violent tactics. In Berkeley California, there were violent clashes between free speech advocates and Antifa antagonists who believe speech should be regulated. One Antifa member named Eric Clanton was arrested for three counts of assault with a deadly weapon for attacking defenseless people with a U shaped bike lock. This included a brutal hit to a victim’s head as they were on their knees, execution-style.

Although most people are just hearing about this group they have actually been around since the 1920s in Europe. They have a long and violent history throughout the world and have been tied to mass murderers such as Joseph Stalin of the USSR.

They have been operating since the mid nineties in the US and have grown since then. I have been following them since 2005 when I saw them commit acts of intimidation during the inauguration of George W Bush.

This is the information I have gathered on Antifa. I believe strongly that this information should be disseminated to all freedom loving Americans so they know and understand who they are fighting.

Antifa History

Neo-Antifa Hate Group Flag
Neo-Antifa Hate Group Flag

Antifa was formed when the Italian Socialist Party split in two in the year 1921. Two factions came out of this split. The first was the “National Fascist Party” which was lead by Benito Mussolini. Eric Hobsbawm, who is a world-renowned historian and British Marxist, described fascism as “nationalism of the left.”

The other faction that came out of this split was a group of communists and anarchists called “Antifascist”. This second group is more commonly referred to as Antifa. Antifa of today is more like a “neo-Antifa” than the original Antifa of the 1920s much like neo-NAZIs are to the NAZIs of the 1940s.

Their flag is a white circle. The circle is surrounded by a black border. Inside the circle are a black flag and a red flag. The black flag represents the flag of anarchism.

The red flag represents the flag of communism. These flags together show the alliance to fight anything that they deem against their belief system.

Their true end goal is the installation of a Stalinist type government worldwide by any means necessary (one-world government).

BAMN Targets Trump while promoting illegal immigration.
BAMN Targets Trump while promoting illegal immigration.

In fact, the national structure of Antifa is run through a front group called BAMN (By Any Means Necessary) ( www.bamn.com ). Their national leadership is located in the Berkeley, California area. BAMN was originally called the Revolutionary Workers League which was an openly communist organization. The name has changed, but their goals have not.

Antifa Organization Structure and Rules

The full name of BAMN is “The Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration & Immigrant Rights, and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary”, but it is usually shortened to just BAMN and is the face of Antifa. When you see an Antifa protest the members are getting their marching orders from the higher-ups in BAMN. Since Antifa is a very secretive group, it is BAMN who speaks for them to the media. BAMN will claim to be non-violent unless provoked while ordering members of Antifa to carry out acts of violence and vandalism. BAMN uses this separation to appear legitimate.

BAMN By Any Means Necessary
BAMN By Any Means Necessary

BAMN is also the legal counsel for Antifa. They will respond to the arrest of Antifa members by representing those members in court. BAMN has also been involved in defending Black Lives Matter members when they were arrested in San Francisco for blocking a road.

Local Antifa is separated into multiple groups depending on their roles. The “Black Bloc” are the protesters and disruptors you see wearing all black with masks covering their faces at opposition rallies. These are the agitators that are there to disrupt rallies and suppress their opposition’s voices. This group is further separated into three colors.

The first and most concerning subgroup of Antifa is the red members. These Antifa members are the ones that commit various illegal acts of vandalism such as smashing the windows of a Starbucks in DC and use violence and fear as their main tool. These are the zealots of Antifa. They are willing to harm others and go to jail for their far-left ideology. For example, Jack Posobiec, DC bureau chief of The Rebel, was standing outside a college campus in DC. An Antifa member approached Posobiec and then attacked him. The attacker was a red member of Antifa.

The yellow members are the next group in Antifa. These people are the ones that help the red members evade the police and their victims by impeding whoever is after the red member. They are known to distract police and go as far as physically put themselves in between law enforcement officers and the red members. They also help distract the red member’s victim so the red member can have the element of surprise during their assault.

The final group is the green members. These people are not in on the tactics of the red members and are used as a smokescreen to conceal the red and yellow members. Almost all Antifa members start out as green members. They dress exactly like the red members. For example, the red member will commit an assault on a victim. Then the yellow member will either distract law enforcement or the people chasing the red member. The red member will then flee into a group of green members where they can disappear.

Bike Bloc is another group of Antifa. These members are seen on bikes around parades and rallies. These members’ main job is to intimidate observers and opposition groups. Most if not all of these members would be considered red members and are usually very trusted members of the local Antifa groups.

Bike Bloc members are also there to keep their parades from being disrupted. One other thing they do is follow opposition members around during the Antifa rallies. When the Bike Bloc members feel that the opposition group is getting too close they will use their tactics to push back the opposition members away from the parade or rally.

Antifa Obligations

Antifa Scum Obligations List
Antifa Obligations List: screen-grab from howtoantifa.pdf

Antifa does have a set group of obligations that they expect all their members to follow. From my research, I have found these to be uniform across the country. Most of their obligations are about disruption and intimidation.

The first thing Antifa groups must do is gather personal information on those they deem “the enemy” in their local area and release that information to the public to cause fear among their enemies. This also includes releasing information about the target’s family and work. Antifa is expected to harass their targets and try to disrupt their daily lives. SWATTing (using Skype to call the police and report a hostage situation or a murder at the victim’s house) and false reports to get the person fired from their jobs are just a couple of examples of the tactics that Antifa uses. They believe that people who don’t have the same ideas that they do are not entitled to a life. As one Antifa member put it, “revolution is messy”.

The second of the Antifa’s tenets is to oppose and disrupt any gathering of any group deemed “the enemy” by any means necessary. This means to show up to any rally, meet, or event held by a group they don’t agree with. This includes using violence and intimidation to disperse the gathering.

We have seen Antifa pepper spray, attack with clubs, throw explosives, and throw smoke bombs when trying to disrupt events in the past. In fact, at the Deploraball in DC on the night of Trump’s inauguration, several Antifa members were caught planning on releasing a chemical agent to disrupt the ball. Luckily this plan was disrupted before it could happen.

The third obligation is to support other groups deemed “anti-fascist”. This includes traveling to other rallies, attending other group events (ex. World Workers Party), or helping out Antifa members that have been arrested by posting bail. BAMN has in the past come to the legal aid of arrested Antifa members.

To Antifa it doesn’t matter what crimes a person has committed, they are still viewed as a “comrade” as long as they committed their act in the name of Antifa. Antifa doesn’t have a moral compass when it comes to attacking people who lean right. They are cultish in a very real way. They are encouraged not to think for themselves. To Antifa is all about a collective or ignorant mindset.

The fourth obligation that all Antifa groups have, and are no way negotiable, is the non-cooperation with law enforcement under any circumstances. Antifa sees law enforcement as a tool of a repressive state and is not be trusted. It doesn’t matter what the act is, they are not to talk to the police. There is no exception in any case to this rule. Police and other law enforcement agencies fall into the enemy category.

Members who are found to have helped police, or have condemned the violence of Antifa will be labeled collaborators and treated as enemies of the organization. Not only will they be shunned, but they will become targets of Antifa. This is another form of control that Antifa has over its members and brings them even closer to being a cult.

Antifa Recruiting Efforts

Antifa does not recruit by the open, public model. This is to prevent infiltration and to help keep the membership rolls a secret.

They call their recruiting a “closed collective approach”. New members are not allowed to take part in any meeting or planning session until they are fully vetted. Antifa uses this technique to weed out undercover informants that they fear that the US Government is trying to place in their groups.

Members that are teachers will also try to recruit their students. Students as young as sixth grade have been recruited. Antifa believes in the indoctrination of young students. Antifa groups are starting to pop up across the country in schools. The recruitment is usually done through BAMN.

Antifa teachers will not only recruit students but also offer extra credit to attend surrounding protests and marches. This is happening across the country, even in Texas. This is not only happening in high schools and middle schools, but also on a lot of college campuses across the country.

Antifa  Anonymity

Antifa prefers to remain anonymous. They have a big fear of their enemies finding out who they are.

This is a weakness that can be exploited. They are extremely afraid of retaliation. In my dealings with Antifa members once you unmask them they have a tendency to fade away. Once an Antifa member went as far as to send me an apology after I sent him pictures of his house and car.

Antifa prefers Reddit for its online forums where they can remain anonymous. This is why there is a lack of real Antifa groups on Facebook. There are some, but not many. They go as far as recommending that real names not be used. They think that by doing this they can fade away into the background after a disruption to avoid retaliation or arrest.

There is one exception to this rule. One person should be designated to be the semi-public face of the Antifa cell, but that person should never admit they are a direct member of Antifa and only hint at being a member.

Antifa on Social Media

Antifa encourages it’s members not to use social media platforms. If a member feels that they must use social media Antifa pushes their members to use Twitter as a Facebook alternative. If a member does have a Facebook account they are encouraged not to post anything political at all on their Facebook walls.

Some members will have two Facebook profiles. One will be a non-political page and the other will be their “Antifa” profile. One profile I looked into was that of a loving father with an ordinary life. His profile was full of pictures of him and his kid. It looked like any other profile. There was nothing pointing to being a violent leftist.

He also had a second profile. This profile was not as family-friendly. In the profile picture on this one, he was wearing a mask. His wall was filled with hardcore communist writings and Anti-American writings. He was calling for the overthrow of the US government and the installation of a communist world government. He was hiding his communist views on his profile under his real name and thought by using anonymity on the second profile no one would be able to track him down.

I was able to track down his profile because he linked his phone number to his Antifa account and his email to his family-friendly profile. In most cases, Antifa members will not make the same mistake. Their profiles will not be as easy to find on Facebook.

Most Antifa pages on Facebook are fake, and these pages are set up mostly by trolls. Antifa members mostly use Reddit. Antifa believes this gives them better anonymity over the use of Facebook. On Reddit, there are multiple Antifa subreddits. This is where Antifa disseminates most of their information online.

Websites

Local groups are encouraged to have websites for the purpose of doxxing (releasing a person’s information such as names, addresses, family members, social media profiles, work, phone numbers…) of their enemies.

Local groups are not required to have a website or even a name. In fact, I have found most Antifa groups use Twitter to release information to the public instead of using their own websites.

In Part 2 we will shed light on the technique and tools used by Antifa.

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About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. He is the former CEO of Veritas Firearms, LLC, and is the co-host of The Patriot-News Podcast which can be found at www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotnews. John has written extensively on the patriot movement including 3%’ers, Oath Keepers, and Militias. In addition to the Patriot movement, John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and is currently working on a book on the history of the patriot movement and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss or at www.crumpy.com.

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Deplorable Bill

Antifa IS a left wing terrorist group that is funded by the D.N.C. and Soros. Those facts are already well established. Punks hiding behind masks with malice in their hearts, looking for any trouble they can cause. They have no respect for others, for justice, for life, for the LORD. The time to deal with them on a personal level will come when you witness a hostile act. Doesn’t matter who they say they are, terrorism is terrorism and assault is assault. People have a right to protest but they have no right to riot, to loot, to steal, to… Read more »

Mystic Wolf

DB did you happen to catch the presidents remarks yesterday, you can find them on the N3 network, he declared antifa a domestic terror organization and too boot he invoked the insurrection act and released the military to do what they do best, stomp on terrorists, he actually said that if need be the military will use live ammo and the thugs will get shot

Deplorable Bill

@ MW; Yes, I did see it. It’s sad because if the governors/mayors had done their job in the first place it would not be necessary. Governors and mayors stopped the cops from dealing with antifa. If people were “allowed” their constitutional second amendment RIGHT, antifa would have gone away long ago. The simple fact is if the cops are not there or allowed to be there to defend you and/or your property, you will just have to do so yourself. Antifa is part of a larger socialist/communist plan to destroy the U.S.A. They are backed by the dnc and… Read more »

loveaduck

National Guard, yes. Active military, no. It’s a violation of the Constitution.

TheTranc

It’s not the Constitution, it’s the Posse Comitatus Act; and the National Guard can be used to enforce the law, but the military can be deployed under the Insurrection Act. It has been deployed during the Detroit riots of 1967 and LA riots of 1992.

Chuck

A very good analysis, but missing a couple of, what I call, Historic Markers. While ANTIFA has Communist/Socialist/Anarchist roots, they have borrowed heavily from National Socialism ideology and tactics. Rhetoric and Actions that bear a strong, but not superficial resemblance, to the SA or Sturmabteilung, that jolly group of psycho/sociopaths that rose to power during the Weimar Republic years of the interwar years in Germany. The trademark ANTIFA Logo bears a disturbing resemblance to the SA logo. The use of violence and terror to silence any dissent from their message. The use of regional cells, although I believe this was… Read more »

Hankus

Step 1: Designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. (Done)
Step 2: Send in the Guard, arrest and lock up said terrorist cowards.
Step 3: Deport the prisoners to Guantanamo for “processing”. Call their mommies and (possibly) daddies to let them know where their children are going to spend the rest of their pathetic lives.

Mystic Wolf

As of yesterday antifa has been declared a terrorist organization not only by the PRESIDENT but by the US AG and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and as of yesterday the PRESIDENT invoked the insurrection act, that means that those involved in the riots can be fired on with live ammo. The antifa zs well as the rioters have just brought the military down on their heads

Finnky

Just as Obama was the greatest firearms salesman in US history, Trump has been antifa’s greatest recruiting agent. “Playing to the base” and moving further from centrist politics is not a way to unite our country or move forward. In trump’s case problem is not so much his politics as his braggadocios attitude. With media working so hard to encourage division and extremism, we the people and the politicians we appoint to represent us must work to overcome divisions. Regarding current situation with protests and riots, there are both good and bad people on all sides. Difficulty is in distinguishing… Read more »

didantifacunts

Bring UZI’s to protest/rallies, and machining gun the punks in black. Every Aazi punk from antifa needs to die like the dogs they are.

Mystic Wolf

With the MARINES getting turned loose, you can bet there will be antifa blood on the ground

loveaduck

Only the National Guard. Posse Comitatus forbids the use of the Active Military.

TheTranc

Not exactly. Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of active military for law enforcement operations. The Insurrection Act, however, authorizes the use of active military for anti-insurrectional activities, which are not considered “law enforcement operations”. Indeed, the Insurrection Act has been used three times since the end of World War II to deploy active military on US territory: in 1957, to enforce desegregation as elements of the 101st Airborne Division were deployed in Little Rock, AR to escort the “Little Rock Nine” into the Little Rock Central High School; then again in 1967, when the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions… Read more »

Hazcat

Excellent read, good documentation. Look forward to the next installation.

Kekistani Patriot

Best most accurate analysis I have seen yet. I would add a few things though. Antifa is NOT a subgroup of BAMN but rather the other way around. Antifa is a paramilitary umbrella group of “Revolutionary Syndicalism” which is a specific form of Socialism NOT Communism and NOT Marxism. Mussolini was in fact a Revolutionary Syndicalist and reformed the Fascist Party into a Revolutionary Syndicalist ideology based on the writings of Georges Sorel, father of Revolutionary Syndicalism and hero of Mussolini. Antifa has NO goal other than violence. It is a group of several different Syndicates. BAMN is ONE of… Read more »

Donald L. Cline

Thank you for the in-depth analysis, but except for the purpose of following the money, it is irrelevant. Doesn’t matter whether they are fascist, anarchist, leftist, Nazi’s, Stalinists, Marxists, or whatever: At the street level where people work to pay their bills and those of their putative leaders, the ideologies are indistinguishable from each other. Totalitarianism is totalitarian.

toomanyhobbies

ANTIFA AKA Terrorist, AKA Nazi Brown shirts, now go arrest them!!
In MI the recent riots here have been reported by various police departments as having many out of state vehicles causing havoc. This was planned, and organized and any bets
Antifa was at the head of this?

chuck

Xx

Dave

I consider anybody who wears a mask to conceal their identity to be a “Bad Guy”. So, I stop “Bad Guys” before they can hurt me or my family.

Ken

Javier: If Antifa is so anti-fascist, why do they use the exact same tactics that Hitler’s Brown Shirts used to shut down all opposition before he came to power in Germany? Shouting down speakers, attacking those who don’t “think” (I use the term loosely) like you, or talk like you, smashing things to intimidate people with whom you do not agree, beating up people who don’t agree with you, etc. If you are so Anti-Fasicist, why are you using ALL the Fascists tactics? People like you never read or learn from history, do you? I call bullshit. Anti-fa is a… Read more »

JonasCord

This “Antifa/BAMN” thing is a right wing fiction. Plug “Antifa” into the CNN search function and there are NO returns. Same with MSNBC. Seriously. Check it yourself. And if CNN and MSNBC don’t admit to it’s existence, how can Antifa be a threat?
I live across the river from Portland, and I have to assume that the children in black at all the demonstrations are some kind of Leftist order of celibate monks…

John Crump

Well Played

Macofjack

@JonasCord – If you are stupid enough to get all your news from CNN then there is no hope for you!!!

Sandy

ah no…it is not fiction….how much is Soros paying you?

John Crump

I think he is being sarcastic

Sandy

nope…this is the kind of info warfare that is going on with these idiots, just like the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

JonasCord

Yes, I’m being sarcastic. However, I’m serious about Antifa being officially invisible to the MSM. This SHOULD be headline news on Fox, and on Trump Tweets from the White House, but it is not. Imagine the s***storm if Trump were to tweet that little fact…
My solution for Antifa, (And I’ve seen them at Pioneer Square in Portland, up close.), is excessive, and includes their parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, pets, their house, and the graves of their ancestors…

pjanintx

JonasCord: Please, spare the pets. They don’t have ideology, and are victims of their “rulers”.

Donald L. Cline

JonasCord: If you depend on the Communist News Network and their sycophants at MSNBC for facts you depend on, you are going to find yourself devoid of any facts at all when anyone challenges you — as I am doing now: Even the grossly-manipulated-for-money Wikipedia defines “Antifa” accurately:

“Anti-fascism is opposition to fascist ideologies, groups and individuals. The anti-fascist movement began in a few European countries in the 1920s, and eventually spread to other countries around the world.”

pjanintx

Donald L. Cline : Anti-fa certainly makes use of Fascist methods in their efforts to to be “Anti” Fascist. Maybe some lessons on Hitler’s Brownshirts and their methods are in order for pitiful Javier. Also, do you think Javier has ever heard of the Civil Rights Act of 1958, and just how his heroes and his “enemies” voted? Rahm Emanuel’s attack on his own dinner steak and his tirade about die die die? I’ve wondered how the idiots justified playing dress up to shut down free speech (again, Javier, see Nazi Brownshirts). At the University of Alabama, they dressed up… Read more »

Donald L. Cline

How did that many people get that indoctrinated …”? Because the “free education, free college, free TV news, free radio news and talk shows” have all been infiltrated by leftist apparatchiks and their useful idiots. It had been growing since COMINTERN in 1925, and as each generation is indoctrinated, the following generation gets even more indoctrination and less training in critical thinking. You will not that the biggest complaint from the ‘politically correct’ class, claims of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. ad nauseum, are complaints about “critical thinking,” aka “discrimination,” aka “evaluative thinking.” The object is to dumb everyone down to… Read more »

DRR

This link contains quite a few other BAMN names and info. https://pastebin.com/VVWi1MgB Also, California Secretary of State lists two dissolved corporations for BAMN with two more names and info. There is also a corporation registered in Oakland on the same street as the Benjamin Phillips address “By Any Dreams Necessary, Inc.” Their charity filing never went through. Follow the money. No registrations overtly under Antifa in California.

mikeL

I identify as neither a republican nor leftist democrat. I am a Constitutional Conservative first and foremost. None of these far left ideological groups actually came to forefront until the unesteemed lead from behind mulatto took office in ’09. Then, slowly we start seeing snippets of them, but not from msm. These outfits believe that thru their antagonistic outcries and subhuman demonstrations that those on the right who believe in their 1st amendment rights to assemble in peace can and will be intimidated by them. As stated here in an earlier comment, why don’t they, afa, go ahead and fire… Read more »

Wild Bill

@mikeL, You sound like just a regular person, with regular eyes, regular ears, and a regular brain!

mikeL

And thats where you be wrong @wildbill. Don’t judge a book by its cover is the old adage. I’m a resident here Khalifornistan, and believe me when I tell you I ain’t a regular guy. I feel as you and the others of like mind, so don’t insult me.

Wild Bill

@mikeL Well, I stand corrected. What is it exactly about you that you “ain’t a regular guy.”?

Mystic Wolf

Thomas Jefferson said it best when he said
“The tree of liberty must now and then be watered by the blood of tyrants and Patriots alike”
Well the time has come to water that tree and do some damage to that antifa bunch. Let them feel the pressure from the military when the time comes.

Tionico

First I’d heard of these guys was when Berserkeley went berserk. Thought they were some newly formed anarchist group, not very well organised. With this article, I find this is a serious and formidable group. How long will it be before they combine forces with local juhadis? At THAT point things will get “interesting” VERY quickly. Let us hope Trump will not lay down and roll over, or, far worse, come to the aid of these miscreant traitors. Seems like these guys are very craftily and determinedly seeking to overthrow the legitimate government of the US. The COnstitution defines that… Read more »

Donald L. Cline

Uh, no. The Constitution does not define “seeking to overthrow the legitimate government of the U.S.” as Treason, though in certain circumstances it may about to the same thing. Unlike some other countries, where speaking or even acting to overthrow the king is illegal, we have the right of free speech and assembly and protest. The Constitution says: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” Article III, Section 3, Clause 1, U.S. Const. And it requires testimony of two witness of the same… Read more »

Mike S

I’m pretty sure counterfeiting was in there somewhere too, right after the bit about “gold and silver specie” or some such archaic nonsense (/s). I’m also pretty sure the penalty for both offenses was the same. Given the way things have been going for the past few decades, is it any wonder we have both a pack of ferals calling themselves AntiFa running around outside destroying everything they can, while inside we have the Federal Reserve counterfeiting their asses off – and NOBODY AT ALL has gone to prison? Keep stacking and stay frosty, my friends. Our moment can’t be… Read more »

Donald L. Cline

Mike S. (Congress shall have power…) “To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current Coin of the United States; ” Article I Section 8 Clause 6, U.S. Const. The punishment is not necessarily the same; the Constitution leaves the punishment of each up to Congress. Of course, that was before the federal government committed mutiny against the States that created it and deprived States of their suffrage in the Senate without their Consent in egregious and flagrant violation of Article V. The federal government now derives no lawful authority from the States, the People, or the Constitution,… Read more »

Mike S

That’s likely the best response and explanation I’ve ever received, and I’ve been circulating in this discussion space for awhile now. Thank you.
So that actually leads me to a quandary of sorts. If the feddies are technically illegitimate, does that mean that the oaths many of us took in the presence of federal officials to support and defend the United States and its Constitution were rendered contractually void upon execution due to one party not being lawfully authorized to execute the oath? Hmm…

YourTruth

S#!t Ubu $#!t… good dog

orwellian

Why would you choose George Orwell of all people to attack antifa? George Orwell was antifa incarnate. He fought in Spain to, and I quote, “fight against fascism.” He went to Spain to kill fascists. Out of all the factions in Spain, he favored the anarchists the most. In Homage to Catalonia, his autobigraphic memoirs of his time in Spain, he wrote “As far as my purely personal preferences went I would have liked to join the Anarchists.” To clear up any misconceptions about where he stood, he wrote in Why I Write “Every line of serious work that I… Read more »

pjanintx

Except that Antifa IS in word and deed, methods and ideology, 100% fascist. The name they picked is more smoke screen for outsiders, and lies to the simple minded they recruit.

Donald L. Cline

They are also as ignorant as a fence post, and that is an insult to fence posts. This evening (15JUL17) on Watter’s World there will be an interview with a goggle-eyed AntiFa fencepost when asked “Are you saying the horse that was stabbed in the neck was ‘racist’?” and he replies “Yes.” There are several other questions with answer that confirm the Crump article thesis that they believe that all the violence they are seen to be perpetrating on videos are “right-wing infiltrators” in their movement. When pressed, he will respond that “Well, even if we did it, it was… Read more »

Kekistani Patriot

Donald the Watters World interview was a prank. That kid has done several pranks and has a Youtube channel Big Kumba or something like that.

Donald L. Cline

Watter’s World is not given to pranks. If it was a prank, it was Watter’s World that was pranked.

Donald L. Cline

I have an unconfirmed report as of this moment that the Supreme Court has on this date come down with a batch of VERY GOOD rulings that will stop a lot of the Cultural Marxism crap we have been enduring, and now we will wait with cheese on our tongue for the temper tantrums of the far-left and Antifa (but I repeat myself) to begin.

Mystic Wolf

Well considering what was said yesterday not just by the PRESIDENT but by the US AG, when the shtf there are going to be a lot of people hurting. The insurrection act has been put into play and antifa has been declared a terrorist organization. The marines and army have been turned loose, a lot of hurt is on the way down.

tomcat

The day will come when one of these crazies will pick on a permit holder and make the fatal mistake of hitting him or her with a bike lock. Time to outlaw bike locks. It appears they operate in areas that are anti gun because they have researched this and found out it easier to mame and cripple people who have no right of self defence.
Intelligence is not one of their strong suits.

Hank

The primary difference between Democrats and the NAZIs is that the NAZIs never accused their victims of being the fascists.

Bill

Its time for a lot of dancing VE veteran. These damn people are gonna poke us one too many times and its gonna be on.

VE Veteran - Old Man's Club

I’m just waiting for the clock to tick down. It will and these ass clowns are in for a rude awakening. Like it was said at Lexington. ” Do not fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war then let it begin here.” Capt. Parker – April 19th, 1775.

PJanInTX

I don’t want things to go there. I don’t want to see this garbage going on in my own country, this country.

If conservatives, like the folks here, were to respond in kind to the morons in Antifa it won’t last long, but it will be ugly.

Makes me appreciate the sentiment behind Sec Mattis’s statement to the “warlords” back when he was an active General. Something to the effect of:
I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. I’m beggin you, with tears in my eyes, don’t f^&k with me, or I’ll kill you all.

Wes Tilson

Lunatic Fringe. Lunatic fringe is a term used to characterize members of a political or social movement as extremists with eccentric or fanatical views. The term was popularized by Theodore Roosevelt, who wrote in 1913 that, “Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.” 1. The current climate reminds me of the opening passage of an H. P. Lovecraft story: “I do not recall distinctly when it began, but it was months ago. The general tension was horrible. To a season of political and social upheaval was added a strange and brooding apprehension of hideous physical danger; a danger widespread and… Read more »

VE Veteran - Old Man's Club

Time has come to dance, they are calling the dance, we’ll call the tune. They only think they’re tough, they don’t know what pain is yet. But they’re going to learn.

Tionico

True enough. One of these days they’ll ve pulling their typical snot-schtick in an area where the gummit have not yet managed to disarm the local population. Some antifa thug will pull out his nuclear bike lock, smack someone on the head with it, crumpling him to the ground, then as he turns to make whan dang dingy on his next vitcim Mr. Colt, and his good friends the Messrs Smith and Wesson will trump that bike lock. The guy won’t be around to GET arrested. I hoped that, when these clowns were making a mess of downtown Portland Oregon… Read more »

pjanintx

I wonder how many Germans, in the early 1930’s said that same thing about Hitler. That NO one in their right mind would ever support anyone with such loony ideas. We’ve been ignoring what’s been coming out of our universities in the areas of politics, sociology, psychology, and education training since the late 50’s, thinking they were anomalies and that they were part of the lunatic fringe. In the late 50’s and 60’s they were. Not anymore. Those students grew up, got jobs in the only place that would have them – education, community organizing, psychology, journalism and politics. No… Read more »

JoeUSooner

I too am a VE Veteran (Army), and you are quite correct. Antifa will indeed learn… the Hard Way.

I do not remember an expiration date (“Sunset Clause”) on my Oath to defend this country from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC…

Old, I may be… but I will never suffer from lack of patriotism or lack of determination.

pjanintx

JoeUSooner: (Sooner as in Oklahoma? Go Longhorns!) Will you, can you, as a trained, patriotic Veteran, which in my mind makes you discerning, thoughtful and capable, use your experience against something as insane and lame as this Antifa crowd? The public will be convinced this is a police problem, and those of you who have military training will, most likely, be excluded from being part of the solution to the fungus they are quickly becoming. They will learn and adapt their methods to police intervention procedure. This will happen while their government hacks do their best to disarm citizens. That’s… Read more »

JoeUSooner

pj… LOL, you’re no crankier than I am, my friend! And yes, anything as crazy – and dangerous to my family (as Antifa unquestionably remains) – is indeed well-within the scope of my efforts to protect my family… regardless of ANY existing anti-gun laws. You nailed it. Many members of the general public will (as they always do, especially on both coasts) ignore their own familial responsibilities, and will look to police to “handle it.” I greatly respect those officers – and there are a lot of them here in Oklahoma – who willingly accept that task. Luckily, in this… Read more »

Javier Soportar

Killing Nazi’s, an American tradition since 1941! I’d rather side with Antifa than with the Klan, the Traditional Workers Party, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists. If you’re not one of those, then why fear?

John Crump

Because that isn’t who they are attacking. I have no love for those groups. In part three you can see they even went after the ACLU. They also are targeting 3% groups as well.

Javier Soportar

3% groups have become a magnet for white supremacists, though many groups do maintain the original noble purpose of protecting the constitution. The people that Antifa have been fighting are the people with Nazi iconography tattooed on them, draped in an American flag, wearing spartan armor and shouting “MAGA!” If these white supremacists are considered victims, then the people rushing to their support are Nazi sympathizers.

John Crump

1) Antifa is fascist
2) Antifa is not killing ISIS
3) Antifa preaches communism which is Authoritarian by nature
4) The 3% is not protecting NAZIs. Hence why every 3% group in Virginia is refusing to provide security for Richard Spencer in his elk during their march in Charlottesville.
5) Every major 3% group bans racism. (3UP, The Three Percenters, AP3)

Javier Soportar

Antifa is leftist, not fascist. Fascism judges people based on how they were born. Antifa judges people based on their decision to support white supremacy, terrorism/religious radicalism. You should do some research. Antifa has been doing good work killing ISIS. Things to research: International Freedom Battalion a leftist group kicking ISIS all the way to Raqqa, Ayşe Deniz Karacagil an Antifa woman commonly called the girl in the red scarf who died fighting ISIS, Bob Crow Brigade and English speaking antifa unit currently in combat with ISIS. Communism is not authoritarian by nature. Like many systems, including capitalism, it can… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Javier S, So you are saying that Antifa is fighting and killing ISIS. Where? And how do they get their weapons? Those wimpy protesters in the article’s photos don’t look like they could kill much of anything much less ISIS fighters that have armored vehicles. Are you sure about all of this?

Vanns40

@JavierSoportar: To compare IFB in Syria with Antifa here in the US is similar to mixing weather and climate. The little bastards with Antifa don’t care who they hurt, whose property they destroy or whose lives they ruin. They are, in the truest sense of the words, domestic terrorists and should be sentenced as such. Their manifesto preaches hatred of ALL authority and destruction of our society in favor of one that has, throughout the world’s history, failed. Join them and you to will share the same fate eventually.

Donald L. Cline

B.S., Jason. “AntiFa” is fighting anything and everything having to do with the liberties our nation was founded to preserve and protect without exception. Aside from the specific areas in which you are in egregious error, there is also the fact that it doesn’t make a damned bit of difference whether you live under a fascist dictatorship or a Marxist dictatorship or a dozen other dictatorships: At the street level it doesn’t make a nickel’s worth of difference whether the neighborhood political officer warlord is a Marxist or a Fascist or a Democrat or a Republican; he’s there not because… Read more »

pjanintx

Well said. Thank you.

Sam

Thank you – Salute “

VE Veteran - Old Man's Club

So you’d rather side with those who would take away your rights eh? Guess we’ll look for you on the field. I’ll be on the side of those fighting for Liberty.

Javier Soportar

Take away whose rights? Those calling for ethnic cleansing? Then sure, they aren’t using protected speech. If you side with the Nazis, then you stand to be counted with every atrocity they have and will commit. Antifa is fighting ISIS and has suffered many dead to the fight against those conservative radicals.

John Crump

Antifa is not fighting ISIS. Freedom of Speech protects unpopular speech. Antifa wants speech they do not agree with banned

Wild Bill

@Javier S, You seem to be mixing some alleged foreign fighting with some really old historic European politics, and some vague protesters in the United States.

Donald L. Cline

No one is calling for “ethnic cleansing,” you idiot, except the liberals who are demanding Trump and/or Republicans be assassinated.

Darren P.

Javier, WOULD you like to go hunting with me. I think we could have a quality talk alone, far from civilization in the woods…………………….

DGarcia

Why can’t we have a simple method of upvoting the good comments like this one?

Joseph E. Fickle

Javier, you need to stop writing, do some thinking and research before you write something as stupid as “Antifa is fighting ISIS and has suffered many dead to the fight against conservative radicals.” That maybe the dumbest thing I have ever heard or seen. Which is hard to do, since I have been watching a collection of Maxine Waters greatest hits.

kingcobra1310

I’d rather side with Trump supporters than these ANTIFA fu*kwits, so, I pledge my allegiance to Donald Trump and our pro gun and self defense brethren as I am a dedicated meat eating, criminal and terrorist hating, gun, freedom and flag loving pro gun and self defense British Lion, patriot, Deplorable and Trump supporter as I have been from being a youngster. I will gladly stand at your side and have your back in the fight against these little libtard ANTIFA c*ckwomble scum fu*k communist sh*t twinkle toed c*cksucking crybaby bitch snowflakes. F*ck ANTIFA and fu*k communism. TRUMP 2020.

Pistol Pete

You are an idiot plain and simple for siding with Antifa.
You are against freedom and liberty. I will fight for my freedom and liberty.
These people are fools

Javier Soportar

I am against the Klan and Neo-Nazis. I am for Antifa, who is actually fighting fascism in America and waging war against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. They actually want to fight against right/authoritarian organizations. Antifa is killing ISIS, what are 3%’ers doing? Supporting nazis.

Sandy

ANTIFA is FASCIST, you hammerhead. They are “fighting in Iraq? What are you smoking? The “3percenters” are fighting to restore the Constitution.

Javier Soportar

Antifa has been doing good work killing ISIS. There are several groups fighting alongside the Kurds on the front lines such as International Freedom Battalion a leftist group kicking ISIS all the way to Raqqa. Recently a young woman died fighting to avenge the brutalization of Yazidi Christians in northern Iraq; her name was Ayşe Deniz Karacagil an Antifa woman commonly called the girl in the red scarf (her Antifa symbol), who died fighting ISIS. There is also the Bob Crow Brigade an English speaking Antifa unit currently in combat with ISIS.

Donald L. Cline

(Sandy, this guy is apparently unaware than “AntiFa” operating in the United States would be happy as clams to have ISIS holding their reins — and I think he has been totally misled by some AntiFa operative in the U.S. trying to recruit him by lying through his teeth, which is what the Marxist-Leninist AntiFa does. I don’t believe anyone calling themselves “AntiFa” has been fighting alongside the Kurds or anywhere else in the sandpit over there.)

Kim

You are nothing but a libturd, and a effing idiot. You don’t deserve the freedom others died to allow you to have! Pray I never run in to you in one of your protests, and I catch you being violent. I will give you a great reason NEVER to show up again, and learn true history. You are nothing but a brain dead, mind numbed robot, who thinks and believes the only thing the lame stream media tells you. You will not live long. First of all, you could fight your way out of a wet paper bag, let alone… Read more »

Donald L. Cline

Kim, can I ask you to put the name of whoever you are responding to in your post? When a notification of it is received by email, there is no way to tell to whom you are speaking. I appreciate your sentiments, by the way.

Sandy

Antifa is LEFT WING….KLAN is LEFT WING….NAZIs and fascists are LEFT WING, right of marxists, but still LEFT WING…why don’t you side with Constitutionalists, or are you an illegal alien?

Javier Soportar

Klan is right authoritarian. Nazi’s are right authoritarian (as Mussolini stated, corporatism in which the state empowers a certain race and empowers industry over collectivism). Left authoritarian would be someone like Stalin. Antifa are left libertarian (aka anarcho-socialists). I think this constitution should be defended at all costs against the forces of fascism calling for ethnic purity. I think the constitution should be defended against the tyranny of religious rule by people such as ISIS.

Also, why am I an illegal alien? My family has lived in the United States since the 19th century.

Sandy

no….the KLAN was started and run by DEMOCRATS. NAZIS and FASCISTS are LEFT WING, right of communism, but still LEFT WING – they all have collectivism in their governments….Constitutional Republics DO NOT. Learn HISTORY

Javier Soportar

The Klan was started by Democrats, who, up until Nixon, were southern conservatives. Southern conservatives switched after Nixon leading to Republicans becoming the conservatives. Democrat and Republican have changed meanings, but conservatives are still conservatives and liberals are still liberals. Leftists dislike liberals for being to dependent on big government and big business. Liberals are centrists not Leftists. The Klan was created by conservatives of the fascist spectrum that wanted to conserve ‘white supremacy.’ The history of it is quite interesting. Luckily for the US northern liberals in the form of Theodore Roosevelt and others fought for social and economic… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Javier S, You sure have a lot of terms for us to learn, so that we will know what you are talking about. Kinda puts you in the leadership role. I don’t believe that I will be spending my time learning your terminology or your view of history.

Javier Soportar

Look up the southern strategy. Nixon backed this as shown in documents in his presidential library. “In American politics, the southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.”

Donald L. Cline

When it gets down to this level there is no ‘reply’ button for J.S., so I have to reply to him here. This is for him, Sandy, not for you: Javier, the “leftist” (read Marxist-Leninist” insurgency started in America as a result of COMINTERN IN 1925. You are like so many Americans who have been dumbed down by the psychologists who learned their Marxist techniques from Lavrenty Beria, at the University of Moscow in the 1930’s, and came back to the States to infiltrate every institution our nation holds dear, including the public school system. Let me illustrate to you… Read more »

Wild Bill

Mussolini was never a Nazi. You seem to have a sliding scale for all these groups. Did you make this up yourself? You think that the Constitution should be defended at all costs, but sympathize with a group that calls itself AntiFirstAmendment?

Wild Bill

@OV, yeah, I’m not sure about him, yet, myself. I think that I will reserve judgement until he has written more.

Donald L. Cline

“AntiFa” refers to “Anti-Fascist,” not “Anti-First Amendment.” But you are right in another sense because they most certainly ARE “Anti-First Amendment” and Anti-Every Other Amendment as well as the U.S. Constitution.

Darren P.

“Anarco-socialist…………so you want the government to allow and help build anarchy? JAVIER, DO yo even know the definition of “Anarchy” You are truly ignorant in all sense of the word on all topics you try to talk about. Just stop, you’re wrong and you know it.

Wild Bill

@Javier, Whose side would one be on, if he did not sympathize with any of those? You sure seem to know a lot about the lunatic fringe.

Javier Soportar

Then you would be a centrist. People like Hillary, Nancy Pelosi, etc. who are fine with just criticizing Nazis, Antifa, and ISIS without doing anything about either. There’s a great song that makes fun of these liberals by Phil Ochs called ‘Love me, I’m a liberal.’

Donald L. Cline

That paragraph alone reveals the fact you know absolutely nothing about political ideologies, Javier. Nothing at all.

Kim

Donald, my reference was for that little fascist BASTARD, javier… Please accept my deepest apologies, if you took it was for you. It was not. It is very obvious, that you and I are of the same mind set, and see th need to help neutralize these little pigs, as soon as possible. I pray I don’t have to, but when it starts, I WILL be on the front lines, honoring the oath I swore to uphold. SO HELP ME GOD!!!

Wild Bill

@OV, I think he is just a crazy mixed up kid, neither credible nor dangerous.

AggregatVier

Ask this ‘good progressive woman’ why fear: https://twitter.com/LeighTauss/status/1267085577419186178

Javier, antifa will come for all their useful idiots. Hide.