Internal Documents Show FBI is Worried About White Supremacist Teaming Up With Islamic Extremists

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In September of 2022, a Gun Owners of America (GOA) lawyer provided documents to AmmoLand News showing the FBI targeting so-called “militant violent extremists” (MVEs) by referencing symbols such as the Betsy Ross flag and a symbol of a minute man. This leak led GOA to file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for documents.

The FBI initially refused to turn over any documents to the gun rights group, leading GOA to file a lawsuit against the FBI demanding that the Bureau turn over the documents. Instead of the court issuing an order compelling the government to release the documents, the FBI relented and gave them up.

Since we initially broke the story, GOA has furnished AmmoLand News with an exclusive look at the documents. The new documents show that the FBI’s targeting of certain groups is not limited to the Three Percenters and Oath Keepers. The FBI is also targeting other groups. Some threats seem credible, while other threats seem like the government is reaching. AmmoLand News will be running a series of articles about what is in the documents. This series will shed light on what the FBI believes to be threats to the homeland.

The first set of documents is the FBI addressing what it calls “racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists” (RMVEs) and Islamist extremists. This document covers these two ideologies working together for a shared goal. That goal is to bring about the collapse of Western democracies.

The FBI defines RMVEs as “those that advocate for the superiority of the White race.” The document claims that Islamic “Foreign Terrorist Organizations” (FTOs) are likely discouraged from working with RMVEs due to distrust, but the FBI claims that some RMVEs are sympathetic to Islamists and want to pursue alliances with these groups. It seems like the FBI thinks these groups believe in the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” strategy. The FBI states that both RMVEs and FTOs are brought together by their anti-Semitism and their opposition to liberal Western democracy.

According to the FBI, both groups believe in an “international Jewish conspiracy to control government, international finance, and the media. Islamic extremist believes there is a conspiracy among Jews to promote Zionist imperialism. They view Western countries as part of a “Zionist-crusader alliance.” Whereas RMVEs believe that Jews are complicit in White genocide.

The FBI claims that both groups are concerned with social values being pushed by liberal Western democracies. These values include globalism, multiculturalism, and feminism. Both groups view these values as “corrosive” to society. The Islamic extremists seek to “replicate the legal traditions and customs during the time of the Prophet Mohammed.” RMVEs view these values as compromising the integrity of the White race. The FBI claims that RMVEs have sought an alliance with Islamic extremists to speed up the collapse of Western society through violence.

The FBI is also concerned about “ideology hoppers.” Ideology hoppers are based on the concept of “ideology mixers.” These are US-based people that “adopt aspects of, or switch between, FTO-inspired violent extremist and RMVE ideologies.” The FBI does not consider these moves to be a true ideological conversion. The FBI believes that these conversions outnumber actual conversions. The FBI is also worried about these groups sharing tactical strategies. Suicide terrorism is mentioned in the documents.


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John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. Mr. Crump has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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Darkman

Absolute disinformation campaign in an attempt to divert away from the real threat of which they approve. Considering it is liberal/progressive democrat college students who are supporting the Islamic terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah.

RayJN

That would basically be like the kKK and Black Pathers uniting

Arizona

Every claim they make is absolute garbage. For instance, white supremacists like the democrat party kkk would never work for the end of western democracy, as they would lose their welfare checks and virtue signaling status.

swmft

fbi has been a bunch of legalized gangsters since 1930s hoover was worse than anyone they put in jail , time for

American

The FBI allegations in this article are as true as their Trump Russia collusion hoax and the many other hoaxes they float. Please keep in mind that they really don’t believe these things are true. They are just claiming they do. A very big difference.

Ledesma

It’s what leftists do. They force everybody together and then squeal that it scares them.

Roland T. Gunner

Piglets.

CBW

The FBI supremacists are a bigger threat to the USA than any ‘white supremacist.’

Ledesma

They view themselves as the sole beneficiaries of the US2A. Not American civilians.

jack mac

Americans not employed in law enforcement are private citizens who are not to be considered civilian to or by civilian law enforcement. Your statement is true.

Arizona

They’re all civilians. Everyone but active military are civilians. Stupid and arrogant law enforcement thinking they are not civilians are not qualified to be citizens.

Cappy

This story could be simplified by noting that the FBI hates even nominally religious Christians, both Protestant and Catholic. The FBI will assign such “zealots” (sarcasm) to whatever group is currently causing the most trouble for the entrenched political scum.

DDS

“White Supremacist Teaming Up With Islamic Extremists”

All of the “white supremacists” I know are always asking me when “rag head season” opens. I can’t see much chance of them teaming up the way the FBI is suggesting.

Sounds like some 3 letter agency is up for budget hearings.

Or they’ve been sampling the stuff they’re supposed to be confiscating.

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OGK

Agree 100%! It’ll sure be a cold day in hell when white groups “team” up with Islamic groups, even if it is for the “collapse of western democracies” I call major bullshit!

Tek_180

So when does it open. It’s a fair question.

swmft

Im betting on the sampling of goods ,lsd or something similar

brnfree

White supremist joining Islamics??? As an American who happens to be Black. I find that premise to be hogwash!!! It’s left/progressives that you need to keep your eye on FBI…AKA Foolish Bunch of Idiots!!!

swmft

I see blm joining kkk in a rally first

JC

This is for them a way to make the case that because Conservative Americans may have some common values to Islam we are just as damned, a common threat to liberals. This builds on, and allows them to justify violent action. Just like recent in Arkansaw. Of course radical Islam condemns even other forms of Muslim to justify Jihad. Conservative Americans are extremely unlikely to be in the same camp.

Laddyboy

The FALICIOUS idea that FREEDOM LOVING THINKERS would ever join American HATING muslem groups is ASSININE!
This just shows how LOW the American HATERS in the ‘fbi, doj, dhs, doe, fema, osha, etc.’ have devolved !!!
Shame on these three and four letter department EMPLOYEES have JOINED the American Hating jihadists against Americans who just want to live under OUR SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND called the American Consitution!!!

Matt in Oklahoma

I’m more worried about the multiple political agencies of federal law enforcement than I am this made up possibility of some analyst wanting attention

OGK

The alphabet agencies aren’t worried about the 10+ million illegals entering the country I guess, they’re all hard working, good people right? WRONG!!! Just wait, that’s all I have to say…

swmft

KNOW how to convert at least one to full auto it will be needed, states like NY are setting up to hire these illegals as police….no oath

American

This is not just a matter of some government analyst wanting attention. It is the common matter of one or more boot-licking analysts who create – out of whole cloth – wild and absurd allegations so they can please the Democrat political boss zealots – and be rewarded with promotions, within-grade pay increases, cash awards, favorable work transfers, etc. This is just another version of job enhancement by mouth-open kneepad action in front of the male boss. The federal government is full of these leeches. But you are correct that the agencies themselves should be of great concern, not the… Read more »

nrringlee

We used to call them brown noses and rock painters. But the concept is valid. If the boss wants a White Paper with a specific conclusion he or she can always depend upon a careerist brown noser to come thru.

1776

The FBI is filled with Anti Constitutional Extremists

JMacZ

Amazing that our ‘esteemed FBI’ can’t recognize the real problem, these ‘mostly peaceful (not) Islamists’. Anything to get the white man for US Muslim votes I guess for Slo CCP Traitor Joe. My guess is that they’ve been told that they’ve been instructed to ignore these Muslim guests and new ‘voters’.

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grant

Now they are just making up any fish story to target the political opposition

PMinFl

That right there !!

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nrringlee

Russia, Russia, Russia. All fabricated. All celebrated by corporate media. The fraud is still defended by deep state partisans.

swmft

none of them says china…. suspicious

musicman44mag

This is news to me. I never heard about this. What BS. They should all be tried and if found guilty have their heads chopped off which they love to do so much.

Oldvet

music … The two ladies were reported missing just two weeks ago . They sound like some real winners . You might find it by looking for two women missing from Hugoton Ks . Yahoo has several articles .
(The perps sound like some real winners) wait till you see their pictures .

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musicman44mag

Thank you. I hate my news channels that are local. The dish channel I always watch didn’t mention it because they are too busy with the stuff the left is doing to Trump and conservatives and this next election coming up. I heard about the cop killer and the guy in Australia but that is about it.
I bet Sprit of the Wild will cover some of it this weekend.

musicman44mag

awaiting. I bet I know what set it off.

musicman44mag

Oldvet. It posted and is below.

musicman44mag

Nope it posted above and mentioned Sp of the w. I bet that was it. It’s that terrible guitar player guy.

swmft

it is tuff to be white, i at least have Iroquois blood, oh wait goobers have been attacking natives from day one

musicman44mag

No, s^^t. I feel for the Native American more than anyone in this country!! I LMAO how they are getting back with casinos and killing Nevada’s biggest resource for income and it is happening everywhere.

All people are lining up to fill their machines and tables making tribes very wealthy. My only concern is I see the areas where they have the casinos and the towns people are still living in trailers and not nice homes. Why?

swmft

only some tribes are sharing the wealth, others are digging out of 100+ years of government taking their contractual lands( what do you call a treaty taking lands and rights) If you look government has been the violators of EVERY treaty

musicman44mag

I know and have read and seen in movies exactly what you are saying. That is why my heart is heavy when it comes to the American Indians but just like the black people who claim I owe them reparations, my generations of family were not founders of this country and came in the very late 1800’s so neither I or my ancestry is to blame but I still feel for them. Something you don’t hear about is that President Trump gave back a forest to the Native Americans in Oregon that they had been fighting to get back for… Read more »

swmft

given back…..wrong won back through court….toook YYYYYYYYYYYeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaarrrrrs there are more to come a rock in south dakota hope they win and knock off all but washington and add crazy horse

musicman44mag

Swmft made a comment to that. I don’t know the history of that but I do recall a win for land in Oklahoma not to long ago.

swmft

another agency that needs to go away bureau of land management (blm) suspicious no???????

musicman44mag

Some of what they do in my opinion is good but most of what they do is bad. What’s amazing is the amount of land that they own already and that it seems to grow with every democrap president we get. I have the situation here where the big forest companies were allowed to buy big lots of land where they manage the forest and they bought it for very little. My problem with that is that they are locking us out and blocking us from using those lands that really should belong to the people. It’s a shame that… Read more »

Oldvet

music … My Mothers side trace back to both Cherokee and Choctaw and back thru the trail of tears . Additionally have you noticed that they confined tribes to trash areas . Have you noticed that gold was found (Black Hills) oil (Oklahoma ) and other areas and what happened after those discoveries .

musicman44mag

Oh, yes I have and I have also noticed that most of the lands they have been given to live on are baron desert or high desert where it is hard to grow anything. The Native Americans of the Yakama Nation in Washington (gave away per the white man) 11.5 million acres only to receive about 1.5 back. They didn’t print (stole or forced too) which is the truth. I went to the memorial Battle of Little Big Horn, where the war with Custer took place and he and his men got their asses handed to them. It’s nothing more… Read more »

musicman44mag

https://www.thehistorycorner.org/articles-by-the-team/stand-waite-the-last-confederate-general

I recognized the names Pike, McCullough and McIntosh as names I read about on the Civil War Trail.

Very interesting. I wonder if your German ancestors wound up in North Dakota.

musicman44mag

That’s ok. My wife’s folks parents migrated from Germany and Prussia via Rumania for the same reason as yours and they wound up in North Dakota as many others did. I was just wondering.

swmft

you mean taking of lands “given” in treaty ,black feet ,and many others and blm(bureau of land management) stealing land and money under guise of helping

Oldvet

swmft…Yes sir .

Oldvet

swmft … The Trail of Tears was the result of president andrew jackson forcing Indians off of their land in Georgia and Florida too .

musicman44mag

Sorry, I never understood the tay thing. I don’t know who Ed Eugene is if that is what you meant.

musicman44mag

Yes sir. Sp o the W. I have it set on auto record.

musicman44mag

LOL, Yes, I get it now.

Bigfootbob

I saw an article about that, the article was so poorly constructed I could not understand who, what, when and especially WHY?

I did see the photos. The movie “Deliverance” and Banjo music started playing in my head. The one gal victim looked so out of place with the rest.

I still don’t know much except 2 women are dead and they arrested 4 scruffy looking hillbillies.

Oldvet

Bigfoot… Yeah the local news seems limited . I found a much better article on YAHOO several as a matter of fact . The woman you refer to was there because of a custody battle which required a supervised custody requirement as the supervisor . The kids father was in a mental help facility in another part of the state , . It reads like a true back woods red neck situation .
She was the preachers wife . One of the killers was the paternal grandmother .

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Oldvet

music … It is playing on today’s news cast . The four were in court today Texas County Oklahoma . God’s Misfits is said to be an anti government militia .

musicman44mag

Well my first opinion on that is that God is perfect and though he does love any and everyone I am not sure that the name is a representative of the spirit of what he is looking for, but it is wrong for me to speak for God so I must curb my tongue.

I am instantly leery. I will commit to that.

DDS

The only thing I know for sure about God is that He/She/It must have a really interesting sense of humor.

Bigfootbob

True, Platypus comes immediately to mind.

musicman44mag

Your right. When you look at the land and watch his animals you cant help but laugh and have a smile in your heart.

Take care.

DDS

Given how much the two states like each other (NOT!), it must be a treat to live in Texas County, Oklahoma.

swmft

wife/sister killed sister/daughter over affair with brother/father…..sound about right no family tree just a bambo stick

Oldvet

There was a report with video that the God’s Misfits is actually someone else totally not involved . They had the vid of the other person totally different looking , A preacher and wife on a Harley . Can’t be all bad huh ?

swmft

government misdirection so they can target someone else they dont like…..sounds about right

OGK

Biden will probably let them go, what we call them was wrong I guess, right Pres? Jerkoff

Norm

Seems to me that they should be looking more at those who wish to “fundamentally change” our nation.

RetUSAF

Our countries most dangerous threat is, the Democrat Party!

Ope

Don’t forget RINO scum!

PistolGrip44

The FBI is almost as retarded as the ATF.

jack mac

The ATF is the FBI’s shock troops

Wild Bill

Interesting that each of those two agencies was created by memos, and could be gotten rid of with a memo. Neither has been created by an act of Congress.

swmft

need to be dumped and members jailed for numerous title 18 and constitutional violations

Wild Bill

Dumping the FBI could be done with a memo because the Fat Boy Institute was not created by an act of Congress.

Wild Bill

Yes, one of the many reasons that they cover up your security cameras.
How have you men been?

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Ledesma

Chances are, they are worried. They should invite a few with liberals and do a “study”.

gregs

this is satire, right? i couldn’t stop laughing.
yeah, yeah, all my skin head friends are working closely with my turban wearing friends to conspire against America. or is it my skin head friends are wearing are wearing turbans? and muslims are shaving their heads?
otherwise the bureau has gone so far off the deep end as to be committed to the looney farm.
does anyone even read these things before they put them out, or do they think this makes any kind of sense?
what a waste of oxygen.

swmft

dustbin of history is where atf and fbi belong

snowmaker

Internal Ammoland User Postings Show American Public is Worried About FBI Teaming Up With Islamic Extremists

Crev

With Power Abuse comes paranoia!! What’s the FBI afraid of? Is there any possible compatability between “white supremacists” and islamic extremists? The FBI is sitll in the process of destroying their credibility.

2WarAbnVet

… or, perhaps, Martians!

Roverray

I smell bull shite I don’t believe any white supremacist group would team up with any Islamic groups, it would be against their nature. If the FBI was smart, wouldn’t you think the true terror cells coming through our southern border be more urgent?

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PMinFl

I think they’re (FBI) just lining up their enemy list.

Ray

It should be the other way around; we citizens should be worried about the FBI joining up with the terrorists against us.

Wild Bill

Interesting picture. Maybe it is FBI policy to send the women first.

Zhukov

It would be a challenge to see how this scenario would occur since both groups hate each other.

Tek_180

I find this funny to the point of being absurd. May want to check blm after all they are teaming up in prisons with the mooslim brotherhood.

nrringlee

OK, this theory might fit the three ex-cons living in. a single-wide trailer somewhere in rural Alabama. But here is the macro theory for you: Those of the Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, Code Pink and Rainbow Jihad crowd are far more likely to align with Islamic fascists for one simple reason: they all share a mutual hatred of Western Civilization. They are willing to suppress their natural animosities for each other in order to come together to take on the Great Satan and the Little Satan. Antisemitism is the harbinger of totalitarianism and has been for over 130 years. Coming… Read more »

musicman44mag

Darkman is right about the college kids being the ones that are protesting and supporting the terrorists and I will add that they are violent and most are Antifags too. The FBI in my opinion is looking in the wrong direction. Hasbulla is muslim and what race of people from America seem to add or change their name to Mohammad, or aleaka mocha, husein or what ever. Its the blacks, that’s who, not white people. The white racist gangs are going to join up with more white people, not people of another color that are terrorists to America! How about… Read more »

Darkman

They are products of the Liberal/Progressive educational indoctrination system. Formally known as Public Education.

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musicman44mag

Eye, captain!!!!!

Roland T. Gunner

Aye?

musicman44mag

Rodger that!

musicman44mag

3 or 4 Marxist out of the 100,000 + on this board aint bad. The fact that I can draw all of them out must mean that I am hitting the right nerve. LOL
Wait until we get closer to election time, it is going to be allot more fun.

Dry gulched

You’re hitting a nerve alright. Get a job down at the public pool. They need a blowhard to pump up the floats.

musicman44mag

You know that would be going back to my very first job at the age of 18 as a life guard at the pool. Fun days. Never had to save a life but there was a lot of whistle blowing for people running on deck.

Thanks for bringing back a great memory.

Oldvet

Music … Not to mention the barely there Bikinis

musicman44mag

Now, now, be good.

Oldvet

music … Never had any complaints .

musicman44mag

Allman Brothers frontman, guitarist Dickey Betts dies. Betts co-founded the Allman Brothers Band and wrote their biggest hit, “Ramblin’ Man.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa4DCp6cl2U

The first southern rock band I ever heard.

Bigfootbob

I grew up in Evansville, Indiana (Rollin’ Down Highway 41!), I was very, very lucky. Evansville was in the Detroit/Chicago circuit for bands just getting their shit together. I saw Stix, REO Speedwagon, Doobie Bros, Kansas, Marshal Tucker Band and of course The Allman Brothers Band as they were building their following. I have seen the Allman Bros before Duane Allman and Barry Oakley met their demise riding Harley’s and semi-truck accidents. AMAZING! Duane Allman got a lot of attention because at the time he was the preeminent slide guitarist on the planet. However, Dickey Betts laid down some of… Read more »

musicman44mag

Well, never got to see the Allman brothers but got to see Lynard Skynard and ZZtop together. My ear has turned towards blue grass and I love Marty Stewart but 450 bucks a ticket for the bloody nose section is more than I am willing to pay. Not that I would go see her but I looked at Taylor Swift tickets and they were in the thousands for the cheapest seats. No way ever even if was 30 bucks like it was for Nazareth and Aerosmith back in 1977 in Seattle. The best concert I have ever seen is Allison… Read more »

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Rodoeo

White college kids screaming ‘death to America’? Maybe that’s what they’re talking about. Or maybe it’s just more deep-state gaslighting…

musicman44mag

I think it is gaslighting because they consider the college brats to be good little disciples of the left and the next generation of leaders so there is no way they could be White Supremacists.

musicman44mag

We need to make it stop.

musicman44mag

right along with Madonna and all the others that said they would leave if Trump was elected into office. They are still here, that proves that they are lairs and you need nothing more.

musicman44mag

I would like to help. I will stand right at the jet door and do the Princes Diana wave and say Buh Bie!!!!

musicman44mag

Over the ocean so they are finally doing something good for the planet by feeding the crabs and fish. Hope they have plenty of Tums..

Arizona

The federal bureau of retards it is! How dumb are they? Also, per their inbred cousins at FBATFE, those ladies in the picture have all magically transformed their pistols “designed to be fired with one hand” into rifles … simply by using two hands, so they all deserve a no knock raid.

Stag

Proving once again that government is staffed by the absolute dumbest of our society.

Darkman

They are not dumb or stupid. They know exactly what they are doing. The dumb ones are the people who continually allow them to do so.

jack mac

Enemies should not be underestimated.

Roland T. Gunner

Good morning Crumpy, good to hear from you. The Feeb chick squad in your pic need to drop their husband’s pistols and climb back into their G-strings and tassled pasties. Seriously, did you make this shit up? Do the Feebs really believe that, because I am white, and I loathe everything Islum and Demokrat, that makes me a violent extremist (terrorist)? And, on top of that, in spite of my loathing, I’m just gonna lean across the aisle and shake hands with my esteemed colleagues in Hezbollah and Hamas anyway? If FBI really has that level of White Supremacist Derangement… Read more »

Brian

This was a bullshit theory 20yrs ago when I first heard it and it’s a bullshit theory now. 1811s are stupid.

HR

I’m FBI….FULL BLOOD INDIAN CHEROKEE

SGT_Wombat

Really? A White Supremacist wouldn’t be in the same room with an Islamic anything.

PMinFl

Re-Run article, however Islamists and white supremacists go together like OIL and WATER.

Grizz

You just know they can’t spell fbi.
Eat a bag of dix.