“An Alabama lawmaker says he is introducing legislation he hopes will strengthen Alabama’s gun laws,” Montgomery’s WSFA 12 reported Friday.
Republican Rep. Reed Ingram “feels” the state’s 2022 permitless carry law, where “anyone over 19 years old can carry a concealed handgun without a permit, background check or training,” is a “bad bill.” Now “he intends to file a bill that would instead require someone to be 21 to conceal carry. They would also have to pass a hunter safety course or get a permit from the sheriff’s office.”
So, per Ingram, the Second Amendment is evidently about hunting and getting permissions from government enforcers.
Unsurprisingly, the bill is backed by Montgomery County Sheriff Derrick Cunningham, who along with Ingram extols the “virtues” of requiring ID, ostensibly because “when we stop people, everyone has a fake name they use and we can’t question it.”
They both might want to brush up on Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-9-18.1, which states:
(a) A person commits the crime of giving a false name or address to a law enforcement officer if the person gives a false name or address to a law enforcement officer in the course of the officer’s official duties with intent to mislead the officer.
(b) Giving a false name or address to a law enforcement officer is a Class A misdemeanor.
The other reason given?
“This bill will take it to where if you don’t have an ID, the law enforcement have the option to take the gun and hold it until they come in and show their ID,” Ingram asserted. He also claimed, “this would eliminate violence without punishing responsible gun owners.”
That sounds like something Shannon Watts would say.
So, it lets cops presume you are guilty until proven innocent by taking away your rightful, supposedly Constitutionally protected property, and not giving it back to you until you can do so? And that doesn’t punish you?
And how will it “eliminate violence” since the law doesn’t authorize criminals to have guns, and, significantly, it doesn’t stop them from acquiring them, either. Ingram is parroting the same “Dodge City over fender benders/blood in the streets” nonsense the antis have been bleating about since concealed carry permits first started gaining popularity. Desperate because they sense they’re losing with 29 states now offering verisons of their own, they’ve turned up the volume and ramped up the hysteria on permitless carry.
Again significantly, the experience with not requiring permits to exercise a right once more demonstrates that non-criminals behave that way regardless of the laws, peaceably. Recent evidence for that comes from Ohio, where dire warnings from the usual suspects, predictably, turned out to be a big nothingburger. And overall, per a March Ammo.com analysis:
“53% of the 21 states with restrictive concealed carry laws have violent crime rates higher than the national average. 55% of states with a violent crime rate below the national average have permitless carry.”
Then, for someone so bent on making law-abiding citizens prove their trustworthiness, Ingram does an about-face on illegal aliens, having authored a bill that passed the House in April, to reward illegal immigrants, who violated our laws and entered the country without the state IDs he says are so necessary for citizens, by allowing them to attend state colleges.
His reasons, per WAFF 48?
“Alabama’s workforce is suffering.”
So, he’s another cheap labor Republican “businessman” sellout. And he couches it in weasel words to make it seem like he cares, by adding “that he wants to make it clear this amendment is for immigrants who want to become citizens and contribute to the state’s economy.”
That’s just what another gun prohibitionist, Chuck Schumer wants: a “pathway” [read ‘superhighway’] to citizenship” for the tens of millions of illegals strategically attracted into this country by politicians with good reason to be confident they’ll overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
“I’m a Republican and very conservative,” he assured the media before pulling another old political con, showing everyone his big “but” and making excuses that prove he’s not. Someone who understands what being “very conservative” means would not sell out gun owners, whose interests he’s supposed to represent, by heaping prior restraints onto “shall not be infringed. And he would not simultaneously be a useful idiot for the socialist Democrats. They’v made their intent for the “bourgeoisie” that Ingram and his rope-selling capitalist cronies represent crystal clear. .
The enemy inside the gates, whether he’s maliciously subversive or just plain dense, can do a lot more damage than the ones on the outside who are at least honest about their demands to evsicerate your rights.
About David Codrea:
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.
Communist in Republican clothing. They are called RINOs.
And I would add, this kind of varmint is the worst because they’re bigger frauds than a proud dimocRAT communist. These losers lie about themselves to good people because if they told the truth they would be shunned. That makes them very dangerous and should be permanently expelled from the body politic. Enough already.
I’m going to contact Robert Aderholt (AL. Congress person) and let him know about this piece of trash if he don’t all ready know. Ingram needs put out of his position. We certainly don’t need him in the Republican party.
It’s time for my friends in LA (Lower Alabama) to heat the tar and pluck the chickens.
AMEN AND AMEN
When the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution and the Second Amendment, they were not just returning from a hunting trip, they had just liberated a nation!
This jackass is like Bill Clinton’s stupid 2A summation: They “strongly admire hunters”.
This is on you Alabama voters.
Yes it is, I’m in Fayette, AL.and when I get through reading this post, I’m contacting my Congressman and making sure he knows about Ingram (this piece of crap).
Sadly, there are way too many Republicans like Ingram out there. They should be viewed as what they are, far left Marxist operators. At very least, vote them from office, the very least.
this guy needs to be punished. i think sometimes they do these things in order to be lobbied (i.e. funded) harder by interested parties such as ourselves. a triangulation of sorts. playing with citizens natural rights as a way to get more contributions.
He can suck a bag of phalluses, cause we won’t be giving our guns to cops to “hold”, ie throw in a trunk or box, drop on its red dot, and then lose it (in their personal vehicle). We won’t be asking for permission, taking classes or paying for illegals to get in state tuition. He can eat cow pies and we will just live our lives as we see fit.
If anything in anyway impedes my ability to legally carry a gun concealed and I am a citizen in upstanding measure, it is an infringement. Taking away the right to carry without a license is a tyrannist move and that is what this liar is.
The left is making it’s big push before the election because I think they know Trump is going to win and then the tables will be turned.
“the law enforcement have the option to take the gun and hold it until they come in and show their ID”
No, they do not.
HLB
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Just another typical Republican.
Please let us know when it’s time to primary this sleaze. I’m good for a few bucks to a standup opponent.
“fender benders/blood in the streets”
That is one of the things the 2nd Amendment is for.
There are more shootings in the streets where I live; as opposed to the time when there were less.
Fender benders/blood in the streets does not matter as far as our constitutional rights go. Stop discussing gun rights based on that premise.
HLB
As an Alabama citizen, I do not completely disagree with this. I do disagree with it enough to be against the bill, but at the same time, there are some points worth talking about. Point 1: Do you have kids or know any kids who are 18–21? I know everyone wants to have their kids back and say they are all great and responsible, etc… But kids these days are not the same as kids 20 years ago. They would rather shoot than throw hands, because I have no idea why, Maybe we are raising a generation of boys in… Read more »
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I agree with you that teenagers today isn’t like they were when I was growing (born 1/29/1958). I do think 18 and up should be issued a permit to carry. I think that it would be a good idea to have them to go to 1 day of training long enough for the trainer to make a good decision about their capability of handling a firearm. The first time they goof up can have their permit revoked.