Madison, Wis. — -(Ammoland.com)- Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc. (WGO) — Wisconsin’s only no-compromise gun rights organization — opposes calls by Sen. Chris Murphy for more gun control in the wake of the Robb Elementary school shooting.
The shooting took place in Uvalde, Texas. According to Wisconsin Gun Owners:
30 percent of Texas schools have armed teachers and staff; However, Robb Elementary, where 19 students and two adults were killed, does not appear to be one.
Robb Elementary is among most Texas schools subject to the Federal Gun-Free Zone Act, which prohibits concealed carry on the premises, according to the school’s own rules and codes of conduct.
“Thirty percent of Texas’s schools enjoy armed protection by teachers and staff, and this killer did not choose those schools as his target,” said WGO Executive Director Thomas Leager. “He chose Robb Elementary for a reason — and that is because it was unprotected.”
According to Leager, it was “another example of the dangers of sending our children to schools that are labeled Gun-Free Zones, which are really just Criminal Safe Zones. This tragic event is not a condemnation of the Second Amendment but an example of the dangerous failure of gun control.”
Leager added that Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc. would continue to support the right of teachers and school staff to be armed on school property as both a deterrent and defense against madmen that would commit these heinous acts against the most vulnerable among us. The state gun rights organization calls on teachers to approach the issue of self-defense from an educational viewpoint rather than a politicized knee-jerk reaction.
With firearm education on par with police officers’ training — in Wisconsin, that is less than 40 hours of classroom and range training — there is no reason teachers should not be equipped and prepared to defend their students.
About Wisconsin Gun Owners
Founded in 2003, Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc. (WGO) works tirelessly to restore gun rights in theBadger State. WGO is a 501(c)4 advocacy organization and registered charitable non-profit in theState of Wisconsin. Learn more at wisconsingunowners.org.
Latest is that he had messaged someone that he was going to shoot kill his grandmother and shoot up a school.
Sounds like probable cause to me!
“They were just standing outside the fence” said Gomez.
Gomez was handcuffed and placed under arrest as she begged officers to enter the building. Eventually convincing officers to unshackle her, she (an UNARMED WOMAN) hopped the fence, entered the building, and ran out with both children.
She saw police tackle a father & pepper spray another.
https://humanevents.com/2022/05/26/americans-demand-answers-after-reports-of-cops-standing-outside-blocking-parents-during-ulvade-shooting/
This is far WORSE than The Broward Cowards.
Let Wild Bill & Oldman’s Oathbreaker Posse excuses begin.
There are a lot of facts that are unknown unless you are correspondent working for the news media retired FBI / LEO misleading the public with options that support Biden’s administration or the hollywood assholes that are now putting out their own slant on a terrible hate crime.
he could have killed more the police waited almost 1 hour to enter , thinking he was close to or out of ammo . if he had a lot of ammo walk down hallway shooting through the partition walls low and could have killed and injured 100s in minutes an hour?????
Press conference they said cops went right in after him.
Nope.
Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school
“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to.” -Parent of a victim
https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683
UVALDE—Frustrated onlookers urged police to charge into the school where a gunman killed 19 kids & 2 teachers, witnesses said. The massacre lasted 40min, ending with the shooter killed by Border Patrol.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza. He said they did not go in.
Javier Cazares, whose daughter Jacklyn was killed, said he raced to school while police were still gathered outside. Upset, he urged other bystanders, “Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything.”
“They were unprepared.”
Police should not let themselves be manipulated into action by standers by. Police must gather the facts available, assess the situation, and decide on a course of action … all in mere seconds.
Right. Like the Broward Cowards. If they did their job it wouldn’t have been Border Patrol taking him out.
You always make excuses for bad cops, thereby disgracing and minimizing the courage and honor of good cops. It’s a form of cop-hate.
I agree – however accounts vary with cops staging outside for half an hour to over an hour. I’d be fine with taking 30 seconds to coordinate, or maybe even a minute – but 30 minutes is inexcusable.
How long does it take for an injured child to bleed out?
40 minutes ain’t bad? Really? While defenseless children are being executed by a young punk? While they kept parents from going in? PATHETIC.
My understanding is the cops were there within 4 minutes, took some fire, then cowered for an hour and “organized” before the Border Patrol took him out.
Hey!, I am a retired LEO, and I didn’t know s..t about this. If you hate cops so much, move to MASS., they will appreciate you there.
Although, there are a die hard group of cop haters, here, John is not among them Save your wrath for them because you are going to have your hands full.
You’ll do anything to ingratiate yourself here. Yesterday you asked if we can’t just shoot Oathbreakers in the head. Sounds like a cop-hater to me.
Untrue and unworthy of comment.
Bzzzz.
“Could we just shoot em in the head and keep moving?“
-Wild Bill, Cop Hater
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/05/umass-republican-voters-want-biden-impeached-if-gop-wins/#comment-2938486
Tackle was talking about libtard politicians that run cities. Not cops.
We will see who the cop haters are soon enough.
BZZZZ. It wouldn’t take “20 gallows in every town running 24/7” just to kill the politicians.
But I get it. You only want to assassinate politicians. The Oathbreakers who ENFORCE their laws and actually MURDER innocent civilians get a pass because they were Just Following Orders.
I stand corrected. You’re not a cop hater. You just hate civilians.
But wait. The Oathbreakers will kill the cops who honor their oath and disobey. So I guess you ARE a cop hater after all.
Because I don’t fear and hate cops. You do and it colors your view of the world and causes you to jump to conclusions.
No, you just hate GOOD cops, the ones the Oathbreakers will kill when they disobey the tyrants.
Why would anyone hate good cops? You are not even logical anymore. Get a grip.
Why would YOU facilitate the murder of good cops by bad cops who Just Follow the Orders of Tyrants? That’s exactly what you do by letting Oathbreakers off the hook.
You’re a cop-hater.
He clearly wasn’t talking about all retired LEOs, so why take offense?
I do care if you retired from picking up the garbage daily. You do not who I am or what I do or have done in my life. Offer your service as a school safety officer if you still qualify. Move to Texas
OV! Where have you been? What are you seeing for fuel prices? $4.60 for reg. , here.
I am jealous of your gasoline prices, and energy to help your community clean up! Regards to Sammy!
I have great respect if this is true for that border patrol agent and all who took the oath to serve & protect I also want to learn more about the chase who was involved and how he got away. When it comes to children in a school environment seconds count once the first shot is fired , get the shooter at all cost. This will become more complicated for those police arriving on scene when teachers are armed. Following orders can save arriving officers lifes I agree. Sometimes you just have to do what you been told not to… Read more »
Good point, except there WAS a “Resource Officer” present. SROs are an expensive placebo, as was “Dial 911 & Die” once again.
Our side needs to stop the make believe, stop pussyfooting around and SAY WHAT IT IS. Neither SROs nor more “Police Response” make up for defenseless staff.
Ban “Gun Free” Zones.
With respect to a Old Vet the police can not be everywhere most folks think of the police men and women as what they watch on the television. Or worse what the media portrays to advance the left’s & the democrats agenda. Most do not understand that in the middle of the night at a traffic wreck they might be attending to those that did not survive those images never go away Or being first in the seen of a senior citizen who is having a heart attack. In the inner cities it is a thankless job dealing with the… Read more »
The border patrol agent acted with valor This was not a convenience store hold up. Children were being killed who cannot protect themselves. Yes I herd the children were in one class room
Correct decision lock the doors in the schools monitor social media report any persons at the schools who does belong there.
I wish some school would take me up on my long-standing offer to provide free armed security. I’m retired and have the time, but the existing political situation makes it impossible for them even if they’d want me.
You must live in the wrong state.
My understanding is that in Texas, anyone can carry in school if they have written approval from school’s administration! I think it’s recent gun control reform 🙂 … It’s a different question whether you could convince administration that you would be beneficial – and would manage to not offend parents (including Karens).
I’d like to see the text of that law, cites, etc, but I understand such approval is only available in ~30% (?) of Texas schools and not in this one (obviously). “Gun Free” Zones should’ve been state preempted, but cuck Abbott & his RINO lover boy Dade Phelan love “gun free” zones and preserved them in “Constitutional Carry”.
As more information unfolds we will learn more
Did we not take our meds this morning?
You actually think that “false flag” operations are NOT a thing? WOW! Where have you been for all of human history? False flag ops have been every governments’ SOP since at least the days of the square rigged sailing ships of the dark ages. Where do you think the phrase “false flag” came from in the first place? Countries at war with each other would commit piracy on the high seas while flying the flag of their opponent(s), hoping that they could pin the blame for their criminal acts on their enemy. The UK and France were particularly fond of… Read more »
I think that he meant the freemasons part, brother. Everyone knows about false flag ops. The KGB was famous for false flag ops.
Knute is a good man. I can never confuse him with a gun smithing or reloading question.
Yep. And when fighting enemy ships or taking prizes, it was de rigueur to fly false flags to confuse the enemy before battle, flying the true flag just before firing.
I’m skeptical of false flag if there’s a more conventional Ockham’s Razor explanation. It’s not like permissive parenting, psychoactive pharma drugging & govt-union-commie school groomers don’t create tons of these little monsters.
Consider Las Vegas: I suspect an ATF-FBI-“counterterrorist”-CI entrapment “sting” bungled & covered up.
But I don’t rule out treasonous Deep State “LEOs” having intentionally bungled Vegas & let it happen. Same for 9/11.
Yeah, that is strange, isn’t it.
40 BILLION DOLLARS sent to Ukraine. Why not spend it on our school security?
Simply remove the prohibitions on people carrying in schools if they can legally carry in their state. You will instantly have an unknown number of anonymous people providing deterrence and security in every school and it will cost nothing.
Well at least lock the doors so they cannot be opened from the outside except during recess.
Do both. Teachers and staff are wrapped up in their work, locked doors buys time for announcement through PA and for good-guys (and gals) to transform from nurturing educator to fierce protector. By themselves doors only buy a little time – but in conjunction with abundant responsible armed defenders they are very helpful.
83 billion left on the ground in Afghanistan while Joe Biden left Americans to fend off the Taliban on their own.
Democrats / Rhinos do not care about human life unless they can control the money and the narrative. Schools should be America’s first interest the future of our country is its children. Not the 545 ageing politicians in Washington DC.
And THAT more than anything else encouraged Putin to invade Ukraine.
I can not disagree with that.
Because we don’t need nor should we want government to spend $40B on school “security”. We need government to get out of the way, repeal “gun free” school zones, and let teachers and staff be their own security.
If the statement is true that local police waited over 40 min and would not enter the school to stop the shooter they all should be fired. I do not care about what department rules of engagement read , Those are children that cannot defend themselves against overwhelming force. The correct response is to take the fight to the shooter. There is glory in life without accepting death it is the only answer to life itself. If the statement is true that local police waited over 40 min and would not enter the school to stop the shooter they all… Read more »
Beto is a freak he has done nothing that impress me. He got some TV time and it was bad at that/
Beto O’Rourke wants your guns
Almost as much as your buns.
He’s aching to nab’em
Caress’em & grab’em
His & hers, yours & mine, everyone’s!
O’Rourke’s an embarrassing goof.
An unhinged hysterical pouffe.
His whoring for media
Verges on tedia
And comes off as a laughable spoof.
Come on guys. Regardless of how you feel about @Russn8r’s other posts – you’ve got to admit this is funny as well as spot-on.
No, it can not be his work. It is not obscene or dishonest.
Wild Bill is the king of projection
With a legend of prissy deflection
He stalks the chatrooms
Spraying pompous butt-fumes
But his strawmen can’t get an erection!
Better?
Just more evidence.
Awwww! Boo hoo! Poor baby.
Men are too alpha for Beto
Because Beto’s the consummate metro.
You cannot believe
That he can conceive
Except for the ol’ in-butt-vitro.
Beto O’Rourke is a fool
A pseudo Hispanic O’toole
The phony palaver
Of this dumbass gun grabber
Leaks out on a wave of his drool.
Yes, and may God bless that boarder patrolman!
I want to know what the Resource Officer did.
HLB
Agreed, where was he? Was he actively trying to stop the shooter but pinned down, or was he hiding in the janitor’s closet. I still can’t figure out why folks here get voted down for asking an important question. Too many get their nose out of joint and never forget it, I guess.
It has taken me a while to settle in here and qualify for down votes. The down-voters must be trying to say something. Perhaps they could just speak or ask with words? I would listen or answer. I have talked to and observed a wide range of personalities.
HLB
Downvoters on paTROLL are Wild Bill’s Oathbreaker Sock-Puppet Posse. They will not tolerate any criticism or even question of bad cops. That dishonors & diminishes the courage of good cops and can get them killed in at least 2 ways:
1) Risking their lives to save innocents while bad cops cower like The Broward Cowards.
2) Killed by Oathbreakers for disobeying tyrannical orders (gun confiscation, rounding up conservatives etc).
The real cop-haters are those who call others cop-haters for refusing to make excuses for bad cops.
I would like to see Ammoland sponsor a series of articles on school safety.
We, as commenters, can gather information locally and report. I will do that for my area.
We could then submit proposals – in person – to our local governments, and report those results here.
We could do something.
HLB
Good idea. And maybe we could think of ways to support Daniel Defense, too, because the press and gun grabbers are coming after DD specifically.
They are claiming DD was negligent in selling firearm to the nut job (nj). Given nj was from Texas and DD is in Georgia, they would be facing criminal charges if they’d sold it to him directly. Hard to see how they could be responsible for something they sold to FFL or to distributor who sold it to FFL, before FFL ran NICS check for FBI approval, before selling to nj. Were I on jury for such a civil suit, I would fight to award maximum possible from plaintiff’s lawyer (and plaintiff) to DD. Treat lawfare as the attack which… Read more »
I don’t think that the plaintiff’s lawyer’s wallet would be at at risk, but I always enjoy your enthusiasm!!
should be but no the laws favor slap suites
HLB, this elementary school had no resource officer. Few do. They are most often found in middle schools and high schools.
I read several accounts with conflicting information. Which ones are correct? I don’t know. One account said it was not known if the Resource Officer engaged in gun play. Another said something about the entry and a Resource Officer. One said the evil person left his ammo bag at an entrance. That could be because he met some resistance there. There was mention of the city using 40% of its tax base for security and also a $500,000 grant for (school?) security. I am afraid the next gun-free zone shooting will wipe out the full information on this event.
HLB
As is always the way these matters are handled, the REAL info on this, if it ever comes out, will happen around two weeks after the fact.
UVALDE—Frustrated onlookers urged police to charge into a school where a gunman killed 19 kids & 2 teachers. The massacre lasted ~40min, ending with the shooter killed by Border Patrol.
“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza. He said they did not go in.
Cazares, whose daughter was killed, got there while police were still gathered outside. Upset, he urged other bystanders, “Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything.”
“They were unprepared.”
https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683
Update: Texas state cop says it was an hour before the Border Patrol got there and took him out.
Did parents tell the cops to get out of the way and let the parents go in? I certainly would if I was on scene of an elementary school shooting – and I wouldn’t even have a child there. Cannot imagine any armed parent not attempting to enter if cops would not. If cops did wait outside the school – then I am appalled. SCOTUS has ruled that LEO has no duty to protect any individual, but should be focused on safety of society as a whole. Perhaps it is time for stat law requiring action when children are threated… Read more »
I heard on the radio the cops tacked a couple parents who tried to go in.
Yes, we do. Lots of them actually.
What Stag said.
Yes we do – and yes they are.
Time for common sense gun control reform – let’s start by eliminating gun free zones. Surely that is one thing we can all agree on.
We’ve had them for at least a decade here in the city of Plano. Don’t believe there was one in my kid’s elementary school (K-5) or middle school (6-8) but definitely in high and sr high (9-12). Have heard something about an SRO in some articles on this shooting. Not sure if I believe them because elementary schools tend to be small and to not have an SRO. Most shooters have been high school students or recent graduates attacking their own high school. Who would ever target elementary students? Obviously he selected elementary for this very reason :(. Apparently madness… Read more »
You are in Plano, Tx? Maybe I’ll see you at the Tyler gun show, sometime.
“In fact it looks as though they even detained one parent on the ground who wanted to go in and save his child.”
-Jack Prosobiec
Were you in Texas law enforcement some time ago?
If so, maybe they started using them after you left.
Looks like Uvalde is forgotten now. On to the next preventable tragedy.
Here is what may be a complete timeline of the incident:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-timeline/
If this is true then, while there are many brave people in the world, very few of them were at Uvalde that day.
HLB
Yes, all that is left, now, is the fight against the gun grabbers that are misusing this incident.
Yep, spot on!
I must be high on the list, moved my ammo out of space i keep it in to clean and paint the room , the pile of full cans four high takes more room in the garage than a dually extended cab dodge ram
Don’t tell anyone.
no he stated he was going to the school to shoot it up, likely wreaked pickup as snub to family .If the school was in the armed defender program count would have been lower or zero as he would have chosen another soft target like a hospital
Of course. And who sponsored the bill making it so. Joe, of Joe and the Ho. And who is now calling for more gun control, the same Joe.
As we can see all articles on ammoland and other sites point to one party. There mission continues Joe and the Hoe are merely players. Our political system is now over come with deep state operatives who are doing the damage behind the closed doors in rooms we will never see. We must regain control of our election process by Nov,2022 oe all will be lost.
Enjoy your evening
I understand that is the report the wreck of his truck is still in question who was involved in that chase if there was one. He should have been stopped their.
It’s just terrible, I can’t feel safe even in my educational building