By Major Van Harl
Henry All Weather 45/70 Rifle Review
United States -(AmmoLand.com)- How good of a performer do you think you will be when you are hit 143 years old? Are you still going to be able to stay on target? Do you think you will manage to be a fairly flat shooter or will your efforts perhaps, be described like that of a rainbow effect?
If you are like the venerable 45/70 Government rifle cartridge that started serving our nation’s military in 1873 and is still capable of stopping anything in North American, you will do just fine.
There were a few short lived, self-contained cartridges that were used by the US military, but when the 45/70 came on line it ruled the plains of the west, well into the late 1890s. It is an old black powder cartridge designed for a very weak single shot rifle.
However, with today’s modern steel and smokeless rifle powders, there is nothing on earth (dry land of course) that you cannot successfully hunt with a current production Henry All Weather 45/70 Rifle chambered in 45/70 and some updated ammunition.
Henry Repeating Arms has have been manufacturing 45/70 lever action rifles since 2012, but with the situation of inclement weather raising its rusty head, damaging a great field rifle continues to be an industry concern. Perhaps you are in a scenario that allows after a day of hunting, to hike back to a hard-sided cabin to a hot meal, and a dry place to service your rifle. However having spent seven years in Alaska I know there are many hunting locations where you are lucky to have a cold, wet tent to return to at day’s end. With limited space or opportunity to clean and oil your firearms on a remote hunting trip, sometimes the rifle gets neglected.
What is the old saying “the only two enemies a firearm has are politicians and rust?”
Henry Repeating Arms has taken its H010 steel lever action 45/70 rifle (www.henryrifles.com/rifles/45-70-lever-action/) and the women and men at Henry Wisconsin, in Rice Lake, Wisconsin have turned this extremely powerful rifle, into the Henry H010AW, or Henry All Weather 45/70 Rifle (www.henryrifles.com/rifles/all-weather-lever-action/).
Henry Wisconsin manufacturing uses a hard chrome process that protects all the external parts of the rifle. So when you are standing in a driving rain on Montague Island, off the mainland of Alaska, trying to take “that” shot, you do not have to worry whether that weather is permanently damaging your rifle.
Mr. Anthony Imperato, the President of Henry Repeating Arms does not like plastic stocks on his lever guns. So, besides the rain and snow potentially damaging the metal surface, he needed to consider protecting the wooden stocks. Mr. Andy Wickstrom, the general manager for Henry, would not tell me exactly what they use to protect and seal the wood on All Weather Henry rifles. He suggested I consider what would be used to finish a custom hard wood floor in a very upscale home. That floor has to be beautiful and it has to make a statement to whoever sees it. It has to be able take the pounding of everyday usage and continue to look great.
Abrasive resistance and water resistance was the foremost goal of Henry Wisconsin when it developed and produced the Henry All Weather 45/70 Rifle.
The original 45/70 cartridge was a very low pressure black power round. With modern smokeless powders the performance can to greatly enhanced, but the pressure must and will go up. Mr. Tim Sundles owner of Buffalo Bore Ammunition (www.buffalobore.com) has made great use of the modern 45/70 rifles. Henry’s All Weather 45/70 Rifle is unquestionably built for strength.
Mr. Sundles says his standard pressure 45/70 ammo that will stop anything in the Americas, Europe and most of the Asian countries. His 45/70 Gvt magnum cartridge will stop anything, of any size, real or mythical that walks or flies on earth. If you encounter a Cape buffalo, or in today’s world of the “other” perhaps a dragon, Buffalo Bore ammo will stop them. Now, in reality, you the hunter have to be able to put that very large, heavy 45 caliber bullet in the right place to stop the Cape buffalo before it gores you. If you only shoot the dragon in the foot, you had better make sure the quick second round that the Henry All Weather rifle will deliver for you, is in fact on target.
Buffalo Bore Ammunition 8A, 45/70 Magnum Ammo
Mr. Sundles developed his 8H, 45/70 load originally for his wife. He wanted his 105 pound wife to carry a 45/70 rifle into the mountains of Idaho and Montana for protection from brown bear, but his 45/70 magnum ammo was just a bit too much for his Mrs. The 8H, 45/70 is a full power, standard pressure, but lower recoil round.Mrs. Sundles carried and shot the special, personally made 8H ammo for over five years before Tim Sundles offered it to the shooting public. His 8A, 45/70 magnum ammo, uses the same 430 gr hard cast bullet, but moves that bullet out of the Henry rifle at 1925 FPS, where the 8H moves that bullet down the barrel at 1550 FPS. Buffalo Bore does the same thing with the 8B, 45/70 magnum–the 405 gr. JFN bullet is moving at 2000 FPS, while the same bullet in the 8I, 45/70 is moving at 1625 FPS.
Mr. Sundles has sold over 10 million rounds of Buffalo Bore 45/70 ammo in the past sixteen years. Throw in all the other 45/70 ammo manufactures and you quickly realize that this very elderly cartridge is not only not dying, but opening up to new markets and new shooters.
I will be real honest. I am 6 foot tall and I am not going to stand on the range and shoot Buffalo Bore 45/70 magnum rounds all day. When you pull that Henry trigger, that magnum round will teach you the meaning of the word manly. If you, however, find yourself in the alder thickets of Alaska with a Henry All Weather 45/70 in your hands, and you meet Mr. Brown Bear or worst yet Mrs. Brown Bear, you will never remember the recoil of Mr. Sundles’ 45/70 magnum ammo going off – you will however appreciate it.
Have you ever noticed in Hollywood that whenever they are fighting dragons it is always raining. Dragons seem to perform their worst in bad weather. Henry All Weather lever action rifles in both 45/70 and in 30/30 will perform their best in the worst of situations.
If you hunt in bad weather or hunt in salt water areas, the Henry All Weather 45/70 Rifle should be the first choice of the inclement weather shooter and the rifle carrying boating community. Those who may have to deal with “walkers” and what disgusting bio-matter that group can slop onto your rifle, or for the few who always forget to clean their firearm after deer season, they will appreciate a Henry All Weather.
Now we have our own versions of bad weather hunting issues here in Wisconsin. You are likely to get your rifle snowed on, rained on, stepped on, or driven into the mud on opening day in the Badger State. A good hunter never deliberately abuses his/her rifle but sometimes it just happens. Henry Wisconsin has made this rifle to take the hard knocks, keep functioning and to come out looking good at the end of the hunt.
Not to worry, any of you folks who live outside the State of Wisconsin, Mr. Wickstrom will be happy to ship Henry All Weather rifles to any State, Canadian Province, to the lever action loving rifle shooters of Australia, and the rest of the Henry Rifle fans world-wide.
Henry All Weather rifles, they may be “Made in American or Not Made at All”, but they will perform at any longitude or latitude and in any weather.
Pick your dragons wisely and never shoot them in the foot. ~ Major Van Harl USAF Ret. / [email protected]
About Major Van Harl USAF Ret.:
Major Van E. Harl USAF Ret., a career Police Officer in the U.S. Air Force was born in Burlington, Iowa, USA, in 1955. He was the Deputy Chief of police at two Air Force Bases and the Commander of Law Enforcement Operations at another. He is a graduate of the U.S. Army Infantry School. A retired Colorado Ranger and currently is an Auxiliary Police Officer with the Cudahy PD in Milwaukee County, WI. His efforts now are directed at church campus safely and security training. He believes “evil hates organization.” [email protected].
Just purchased my all weather Henry 45-70 and as for as the looks it’s a fairly good looking rifle considering it was built for the element of the weather. Now don’t get me wrong, the Golden Boy’s or some beautiful and I may own a couple or so one day but being I live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast with salt water and salty air with a very high humidity I went ahead and bought the all weather 45-70. Being from the area that I am, I purchased the A.W. 45-70 to hunt hogs and mostly be hunting from a… Read more »
Just bought a AW henry 45-70 and it is without a doubt the best quality gun I own for the $$. As far as a plastic stock goes that guy is nuts..your shooting a 45-70 not a 22lr, it’d be hard to handle a 30-30 with a plastic stock! And as far as hardwood floors going bad. You walk on them! Unless you plan on walking on your almost 1000$ gun! And the hardwood stocks also help with balancing the rifle without it being top heavy! If you want plastic go buy a savage, if you want quality durability and… Read more »
Well penned Greg ……………………..
Does anyone know if Henry manufactures a large loop for the 45/70? The look is outstanding and with heavy mittens all most a must. I do agree that the quality from Marlin has gone away now that mega R has acquired them. Have had a new one in my hands, I set it back on the counter, no comparison to the original Marlin. Going to do some hands on with the Henry.
Hands on with a Henry update. One has a new home in my gun safe. With no question about it, it happens to be one of “if not the best” lever actions on the market AT ANY PRICE. This gun will pattern, first time out credit card groups at 100. Sending Hornady both 325 and 250 gr resulted in same grouping size off bench open sights (68 year old eyeballs…. ha). Have since set a Leupold FireDot-G on top. Leaning to the 325 gr (for some reason the 325 is $5.00+ less then the 250 per box) the ballistics are… Read more »
Henry update WT season.
Talk about a game taker, DRT period! 7 out of 11 taken with the 45-70, 2 with S&W 460 XVR and 2 with Parker Xbow. Not one issue whatsoever with the AW Henry, I would carry this lever action anywhere for anything world wide. I would step up to some Buffalo Bore for the more dangerous big boys however. You can not go wrong with the Henry 45-70 AW.
I don’t know about others, Frank, but I definitely appreciated your updates of the process from purchase to hunting! Glad to know the AW Henry worked out well for you. Best regards.
Thanks Curtis,
To bad I can’t post a few images. As they say a picture is worth a 1000 words. Try going to the Apple Creek White Tail web. Snoop around a bit very interesting.
Can I get a threaded muzzle with that? Silencerco makes a 45-70 suppressor “Hybrid” model that cuts the recoil by at least a 3rd or more, just shot one a few weeks ago.
Would precision ammo 350 grain be good for a 45-70 all weather?
How would this rifle hold up to shooting a Garret 540gr.+P Hammerhead round ?
I plan on buying a Henry AW 45-70 in the near future. I would like to put a stainless steel scope and mounts on the AW that matches the stainless finish of the gun? Any suggestions?
Weaver makes silver mounts Chris, I believe they also produce silver optics as well. Leupold for sure has them.
About the 45-70 Henry all weather, how many rounds does the 45-70 hold is it the same as the 45 pistol ammo??
Yesterday I loaded 5 in the tube plus one in the chamber of my H010AW 45-70.
No not the same, holds 5 I send Hornady 200 FTX 45-70 gov.
@Old Guy O, .45-70 is a really big rifle cartridge, and is not the same as a .45 ACP pistol cartridge or a .45 Long Colt pistol cartridge. All three are different from each other. Merry faith based Christmas.
Says they’ll ship to Canada. Where do I order from for them to ship to Canada?
I am lusting after a 45/70 with a 26inch octagon barrel and no pistol grip. Marlin makes em but they have forgotten about their Canadian customers, cant find one anywhere in Canada. The 26 inch barrel would further give the modern propellants more time to work as the bullet moves down the barrel on its way to the target. Hence more MV and effective range and possible greater accuracy. If Henry made made this rifle I would buy it in a heart beat. How about it Henry?
I have several Marlin Rifles, (all JM) including a couple in their stainless steel versions (30-30- & 45-70) and I love them. However, I have always admired Henry rifles a lot as well, and sincerely hope to own a Henry rifle someday soon. But when I finally can get one, although I like this all-weather version, I will want one of their Golden Boy wood stocked versions, just because I think they are absolutely gorgeous! Of course, I also want a Henry Mare’s Leg rifle as well. I’ve had my eye on one of those for many years now. In… Read more »
The best looking rifle I have owned in my 65 years is the Henry Golden Boy. It is pure beauty with a major flaw, It will not stand up to normal use without suffering cosmetic issues. I was completely anal about the care taken when handling this rifle but stuff happens. Hang it on the wall, admire it and take the Ruger when you go to the field.
Any chance they will ever make side loaders? Not a fan of the tube.
Hope they never do, loading through the gate is a pain and when it’s cold FORGET IT.
I heard recently that the are working on one:). I will get one if they do..just not a fan of the tube…too slow.
I have an early edition 1873 Calvary Officer’s carbine in 45/70. Does anyone have a suggested cartridge for this?
The biggest thing I would ever tackle would be a deer.
Hornady’s 45-70 Government 325 gr FTX® LEVERevolution, if your gun is safe.
This round should be safe for your gun, but be sure.
Thank you Jon. I used to shoot it every few years. It has been about 25 years since last firing.
I suspected someone would say that. Do keep in mind, I was interested in the 30-30, A lot of difference in recoil between it and the 45-70. Of course, you could make the argument that the lighter stock (and a polymer stock can weigh whatever the mfr. wants for the weapon) could be offset by a heavier scope (usually, but not always, better…and more expensive). But, in principal, you are correct that the wooden furniture would be heavier and help tame the recoil of that 45-70. Also, I was considering even less recoiling calibers that Henry offers. They go all… Read more »
I agree with the points you’re making – mostly “options”. They’re nice to have… I live in Alaska, and I know all about the weather the author is talking about – I promise you he ain’t lyin’!. Although the Interior of AK (the region where I live) is dryer than anywhere south of the Alaskan Range (where the author is talking about), it’s still Alaskan weather and unpredictable anywhere. Up here it’s not just rain though, often it’s the cold. If you’re hunting and the temps drop to -20*F or colder, anything w/ moisture frosts up. This, especially on my… Read more »
I wonder what outdoorsmen did before plastics was available for stocks in harsh weather. I know the dog sled folks had to be packing a rifle.
Thanks
I have been looking at the 30-30 version of this rifle and really like it. I was considering a Marlin 30-30 in SS; however, there seems to be considerable concerns/complaints concerning inconsistent QC (Marlin is now owned by Remington…nuff said)! I am probably going to regret saying this…but, I wish Henry would consider offering synthetic stocks for some of its rifles (the AR-7 not withstanding). While I love the walnut stocks of their rifles, I think a synthetic stock for a all-weather rifle simply makes sense. It is impervious to moisture and reduces the weight of the rifle you are… Read more »
You make good points all, however, consider that the lighter syn stock will increase an already hefty recoil in 45-70 by reducing the weight.
HOW MUCH IS THE 45-70?
Enjoy your post, have heard nothing but good about Henry Rifles!
What is the going price of your 45/70
Just go to their website – MSRP $950.00
got mine for 795$ on GunBroker
the silver finish on the weaver and burris rings dont match the henry AW finish at all,,stick to matte black finish rings