Ninth on Peruta: No Right to Carry Concealed, Effectively, No Right to Carry

By Dean Weingarten

Ninth on Peruta: No Right to Carry Concealed, Effectively, No Right to Carry
Ninth on Peruta: No Right to Carry Concealed, Effectively, No Right to Carry
Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- It has been over a year since the en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit heard the oral arguments in the Peruta case.

During that period, Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice who wrote the Heller v. D.C. opinion, died.  

The Ninth Circuit has now reversed the ruling of the three judge panel in the Peruta case.  Essentially, they ruled that there is no right to bear arms concealed outside the home in California.

Then they ruled that they did not recognize a right to carry openly outside the home in California, because the Supreme Court has not directly ruled on the right to carry arms openly.

From the latest Peruta ruling (pdf):

The en banc court held that the history relevant to both the Second Amendment and its incorporation by the Fourteenth Amendment lead to the same conclusion: The right of a member of the general public to carry a concealed firearm in public is not, and never has been, protected by the Second Amendment. Therefore, because the Second Amendment does not protect in any degree the right to carry concealed firearms in public, any prohibition or restriction a state may choose to impose on concealed carry — including a requirement of “good cause,” however defined — is necessarily allowed by the Amendment. The en banc court stated that there may or may not be a Second Amendment right for a member of the general public to carry a firearm openly in public, but the Supreme Court has not answered that question.

In the dissents, the choice to frame the question very narrowly, so as to avoid the obvious prohibition on the general public from carrying arms outside the home, is noted:

In sum, Heller indicates that concealed-weapons
prohibitions may be proper as long as individuals retain other
means to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear
arms for self-defense. However, where other ways of
exercising one’s Second Amendment right are foreclosed, a
prohibition on carrying concealed handguns constitutes a
“severe restriction” on the Second Amendment right, just like
the District of Columbia’s unconstitutional handgun ban in
Heller.

II. Given California’s Choice to Prohibit Open Carry, the
Counties’ Policies of Not Allowing for Concealed
Carry for Self-Defense are Unconstitutional.

Those who decided to narrow the question to concealed carry only, so as to rule against carry outside the home, won the day.  Suspicions will float about that the Ninth was hoping that something such as Justice Scalia’s death would occur before they made their decision. I doubt that is the case, although the en banc Ninth stretched logic to reach the very narrow decision in this case.

The case will likely be appealed to the Supreme Court.

Given the make-up of the current court, I would not be surprised if the four leftist judges would quickly agree to hear the case; expecting that at worst, there would be a deadlock, thus insuring that the Ninth Circuit ruling will stand in California, Hawaii, and the rest of the Ninth Circuit, which is the largest circuit in the nation.

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About Dean Weingarten;

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Clark Kent

There was no ‘reasoning’ involved.

David Chen

The Court’s reasoning goes like this.

When one carries a gun, it is either an open carry or a concealed carry.

The right to open carry is not guaranteed by 2nd Amendment, so that open carry can be prohibited.

The right to concealed carry is not guaranteed by 2nd Amendment, so that concealed carry can be prohibited.

Now, although the vast majority of law-abiding individuals in California not prohibited from possession of a firearm are prohibited from open carry AND concealed carry, 9th Circuit concluded that there is nothing wrong with it (for the above fallacious reason).

Acie Brown

As an American and a combat veteran,I love my country and proud to defend it and The Constitution of the United States. The left WILL NOT take away my Constitutional rights, to defend my family, myself, and the American way of life. The only way they will stop me from carrying concealed or open, is when they pry my gun from my Cold, Dead hands.

Eric

Those Judges are traitors step down , socialist freaks.

M Ball

Next they will take away your right to a jury trial. People need to get versed in jury nullification. Nullify these laws from the jurors box and other laws that are blatantly unconstitutional as well. If you need to ask permission to exercise your rights are they really rights? No, they are not. Quit asking permission, carry concealed, carry openly, who cares just carry! Everyone should be openly violating these laws as a form of civil disobedience. Fill the courts with cases of this matter and there will be people to nullify this from the jury box. We the people… Read more »

Dr. Jim Clary

This should not surprise anyone as this Circuit Court is so far left that they make the late Patsy Pink look positively conservative. I feel sorry for the Californicans who support this kind of lunacy…. but, as with their crooked government officials, they get what they deserve.