Springfield, VA –-(Ammoland.com)- President Donald Trump released a memo to direct the attorney general to seek comments on a rule purporting to ban bump stocks. The memo, states, in part:
“Today, I am directing the Department of Justice to dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received, and, as expeditiously as possible, to propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.”
In light of Trump’s action, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America (GOA) Erich Pratt issued the following statement:
“If President Donald Trump’s goal is to ban bump stocks, then that is a gross infringement of Second Amendment rights. GOA has long warned that such a ban can easily be applied to triggers, magazines, or semi-automatic firearms.
“Furthermore, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has ruled multiple times that bump stocks do not convert semi-automatic firearms into fully-automatic firearms. Converting semi-automatic firearms into fully-automatic firearms is already illegal under federal law.
“Additionally, a ban on bump stocks would ignore the ATF’s previous public comment period that garnered over a hundred thousand comments, which were overwhelmingly anti-regulation.
“Banning bump stocks will not stop criminals from getting guns, but it can be used by gun controllers to ban triggers, magazines, and semi-automatic firearms.
“While Trump ran as a pro-gun candidate, this action does not appear to line up with his campaign rhetoric. Instead of further restricting the right to keep and bear arms, Trump should urge Congress to pass H.R. 34, which would repeal gun-free school zones, an issue Trump campaigned on.
“Regardless of Trump’s future actions on bump stocks, Gun Owners of America remains committed to fighting any bump stock ban or regulation — including the use of legal action.”
Erich Pratt, or another GOA spokesperson, is available for interviews. Gun Owners of America is a nonprofit lobbying organization dedicated to protecting the right to keep and bear arms without compromise. GOA represents over 1.5 million members and activists. For more information, visit GOA’s Newsroom.
Jim C. wrote:
“Piece meal banning of parts is not a policy …”
Precisely, which is why the Trump executive order does not mention bump stocks.
And why the executive order returns the law to the way it was between 1934 and the Obama administrations.
The alternative is to have the liberal democrats (the gun grabbers) have a seat at the political tble.
E. Bryan Hoover
The executive order put out by President Trump says nothing about, repeat NOTHING, about Bump Stocks. The executive order says only that any modification to a semi-automatic gun, that turns it into an automatic weapon, should be made illegal (the way it was before the Obama administration changed the regulations). Why would the Obama administration do this — probably for the same reason the Obama administration did Fast and Furious. The regulation change is a response to the Las Vegas mass murder. The Las Vegas shooting was done with automatic weapons. I was in the military — trust me —… Read more »
Piece meal banning of parts is not a policy and will open the way to more Democrat-style banning ala CA.
Very misguided of President Trump.
Couldn’t read through all the garbage, but read some, and those for banning things can’t be more wrong. Bump stocks have nothing to do with saving peoples lives nor does any of this crap Trump is calling for except arming and training certain teachers to have guns in school. Better yet just do away with the gun free crap altogether that will help more than anything. But banning things more laws upping the age to own one etc… is just you all being duped into status thinking and that society is more important that individual rights. We lived well over… Read more »
If Dave and others don’t want bump stocks, we must respect their wishes to voluntary waive their rights. That is their choice and may they go in peace. By what authority do they claim the right to deny or restrict the rights of anyone else? I personally have no desire for a bump stock, although sometimes on the range I engage in bump fire, a skill I picked up as a range master in the military. It’s enjoyable, makes a lot of noise and can be pretty impressive, but also uses up a lot of ammo very quickly. In this… Read more »
i don’t own any of them, and can’t find a reason to.
but it should be legal for those folks who want them to have them with all the BS.
@Grig W and JH, Well said. May I suggest also telling that to the POTUS (whitehouse.gov/contact) your senators, and congressperson. GOA is sending a terrific petition, and the NRA needs to hear out thoughts, too.
Trump did not ban anything, he can’t do that. He asked DOJ to study the bump stock, Sen Feinstein said BATF can’t ban them,it will end up in courts for years. Trump signed a memorandum directing Attorney General Jeff Sessions to propose new regulations that would ban devices that can effectively turn legal weapons into machine guns. We all know any bump stock can’t make a semi auto firearm into a machine gun, the internal parts to do that are not installed. The rifle cycles no faster with or without the bump stock. You just have to have a fast… Read more »
Trump did not ban anything, he can’t do that. He asked DOJ to study the bump stock, Sen Feinstein said BATF can’t ban them, it will end up in courts for years. Trump signed a memorandum directing Attorney General Jeff Sessions to propose new regulations that would ban devices that can effectively turn legal weapons into machine guns. We all know any bump stock can’t make a semi auto firearm into a machine gun, the internal parts to do that are not installed. The rifle cycles no faster with or without the bump stock. You just have to have a… Read more »
So far, I can’t think of anything Trump has done for us gun owners, and it was largely us who made him President. It’s been a year and nothing yet. Hmmmnnn… Maybe he only wants a single term?
I did not vote for this idiot or the bimbo Hillary because the warning signs were there long before the voting started. The thing that pisses me off the most is the clowns that still think Trump is the best thing since Moms apple pie. They voted for him so he must be a good thing or so they must be telling themselves. The new year will bring all the problems with this yo-yo to the forefront and then the crying and denying will begin.
PS- I could care less if I have hurt the Trump fans feelings, GROW UP!
So you voted for crazy socialist Bernie Sanders, that is all anyone needs to know about you & your post.
trump man i see.
Hmm… you say that as though you do not approve, or perhaps you do not understand. Being a “Trump man” is a very good and patriotic thing, and it is, in fact, a high compliment, indeed.
I could only read so much as you were making me sick, and I have a Cause to get behind. Trump and Those Kids, mainly Those Kids, as they say What we are doing ain’t working. Bump Stocks should never have been allowed and you know it. I own more guns and shot more then most, and I have done so for over 50 years, and yes I Always Carry. I own a numbe of AKs, great punch round. I love a number of MPs and MACs, in 9 and 45. I can make them Bump and Climb The Pole.… Read more »
Brown,
What part of “….shall not be infringed.” have you never understood ?
Quit sleeping through your history classes, Dave. There is nothing stupid about the 2nd Amendment – which, by the way, HAS no “top.” The Federalist Papers are crystal clear that the Founding Fathers expected the citizenry to ALWAYS possess firearms that are “suitable for war.”
@Dave Brown, DanIII is correct. You suggest the unconstitutional. I have read that bump stocks were invented so that disabled people could enjoy the shooting sports. And finally, all of your claimed qualifications do not qualify you to decide for me.
I’m always amazed at the number of gun owners that don’t know why the 2A was written. It wasn’t about hunting….
I tweeted to the President the other day, that I can make just about ANY semi-automatic rifle fire FULLY automatic by simply using a screw, a rubber band and some string. Are they going to ban those too?
@WB careful who you announce that to, it could bring on a ban of the AK rifle.
News media still blames someone else for the problem,,,
We should look at movies, games, and mental illness before disarming our citizens…Children are Most important!!!
Godspeed
Safe schools don’t inflame passions which lead to stupid decisions by politicians. The left will never accede to armed security on schools because that would work and stop mass murders. Then what could the left use to push their disarmament program?
Exactly. When trouble arises, they always want the good guy with the gun to rush right over, yet they don’t want him to already be there. How do you fix stupid? Teachers need to be allowed to concealed carry, if they wish, safe and secure, instead of blocking some lunatic’s bullets with their bodies and wishful thinking.
Politicians who rush to “do something” to appease the screaming mob are most likely to do the “wrong” thing.
I don’t anyone going after HIT & Run CARS only People who DRIVE these cars But when it comes to GUNS used to kill it.’s ALWAYS the GUN. did it It seems the trigger happy nut was just along for the ride..
I wondered how long before Trump would turn.
I am DEEPLY concerned about this action by our beloved President! Like millions of other conservative, law abiding, gun owning citizens I have been a staunch supporter of Donald Trump throughout his campaign and now his presidency; BUT, this action COULD cause me to lose some my enthusiasm! GUN CONTROL begins in the home, teaching responsibility, Judeo-Christian values, respect for life and obeyance of law. Banning guns, or ANY piece of equipment associated with guns, naively thinking that it will stop senseless murder and violence is the EXACT SAME ignorance demonstrated by thinking that banning cars, or knives, or baseball… Read more »
@John Dunlap Becker, I am deeply concerned, too. So I sent a letter to the president telling him that he is faced with a democrat ploy to separate him from his supporters. I sent it four times, so far. Go to whitehouse.gov. Then I sent a letter to both Senators and my House of Representatives rep. If we all pester the heck out of our POTUS, Senators, and Congress persons, they will realize that their positions are at stake.
It appears that mover folks die under Demoratic control than conservative control or is my math off.
Tromp’s roots as a NYC liberal are showing. I wonder if he’s actually read the constitution yet?
Seems that HR 38 should be passed and not passed over as such often happens in the past. But calls for “properly armed and trained teachers may just be a way to avoid actually getting armed teachers in the classroom where they can deter and save lives. Combat soldiers are not trained in some magical way and ordinary school teachers should be smart enough to understand the Use of Force laws. Just how many children might die while the Nation waits to train teachers to be trauma surgeons, Navy SEAS and SWAT police/HRT? The truth is teachers won’t be going… Read more »
When I was in high school (Graduated 1977) my friends and I used to duck hunt before school, the first time we met the principal on the way in he asked what we were hunting dressed in our camo? we replied ducks. He asked where we had left our guns? we replied under the seat of our truck. He replied it would probably be a safer place to put them in our locked lockers instead. From that day on we would bring our cased shotguns into the school and place them in our lockers. There was no gun free zones… Read more »
Good stats would appreciate it if you put the source of your information in the post, thanks.
Why is no one talking about SECURITY as a cure for school violence??? Maybe because it doesn’t fit liberal gun-grabber’s agenda.
Israel stopped school shootings 100% years back by arming school teachers. Are the political hacks so stupid that they can not do the same.
Yes, the Liberal political idiots are WAY too stupid to acknowledge anything (Including Israel’s successful efforts) – ANYTHING – that would fly in the face of (that would interfere with) their anti-gun agenda.
If anything needs to be criminalized it should require an automatic death penalty for anyone illegally using a firearm. It will prevent recidivism and act as deterrent for most individuals. Anything else is a infringement on my rights as an American citizen.
I agree 100% ! BUT, the libs/Dems have basically eliminated the VERY much needed death penalty and any correction other than a F**KING useless “timeout”. Criminals and those looking to become criminals have ZERO fear now which is then direct root to why things like school shootings and murders happen. Nothing bad will happen to them, they will be fed, have a bed, get to read and work out to their hearts content. Bring back the death penalty with a vengance and punish the criminals as they SHOULD be punished! They should, as they used to, relinquish any and all… Read more »
I understand your position, but it is impractical. Severity of punishment does NOT deter crime… CERTAINTY of punishment deters crime.
EXCELLENT point! And the probability of PUNISHMENT (as opposed to arrest, conviction, etc.) is dependent upon the efficient operation of our legal system, which everyone knows is badly broken. Nearly 40 years ago F. Lee Bailey estimated that a criminal had a 1 in 20 chance of being caught when he committed a crime, if caught, another 1 in 20 chance of going to trial. Then it was even odds he’d be convicted, but went back to a 1 in 20 chance he’d go to prison for more than a year or so. Since criminals know all this, they aren’t… Read more »
As per the Second Amendment – – – – No more INFRINGEMENTS upon the LEGAL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I commented on the ATF website against their proposed regulation against bump stocks I also just emailed my senators and representative that I am against any more gun control laws and want armed guards in the schools I can only hope that President Trump is playing four dimensional chess and is only doing this as a delaying tactic until this all dies down As the article said the ATF has already ruled that the law clearly states bump stocks are not Machine guns The president could propose a law making them illegal and congress could vote on it but neither… Read more »