Opinion
Colorado – -(AmmoLand.com)- This past Saturday I traveled to Salida, CO attend a town hall hosted by State Senator Kerry Donovan. Donovan is a rural Democrat who has voted with Republicans on gun issues in the past. Her district is largely pro-gun, and she knows it. She also knows HB19-1177 “Red Flag” Emergency Risk Protection Orders ERPO is DANGEROUS POLICY for her gun owning constituents. She should do the right thing and vote NO on this bill. It is her duty as a representative of the communities she represents, including the sheriffs who oppose this legislation on safety grounds.
Last Friday during the “Red Flag” ERPO Senate Floor debate, Donovan stated that she had spoken to Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze, as well as the county commissioners and that they DID NOT oppose HB19-1177 and would NOT be adopting Second Amendment Sanctuary status.
But at her town hall the truth came out when the sheriff himself stated they had never had a conversation, that he opposed the bill, and that he would be asking his commissioners to seek Second Amendment Sanctuary status. This was backed up by one of the county commissioners.
Then she loses it on her constituents…
WATCH! Watch the Video
Third reading and final senate vote was supposed to take place today but the vote has been laid over! This is because there are some Democrats on the fence about whether or not to vote for this horrible piece of legislation!
Call and email these three state senators immediately! Then use the copy/paste list to email all state senators asking them to vote NO on this poorly written, dangerous bill!
Kerry Donovan
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Leroy Garcia
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Here’s Why Colorado’s Red Flag ERPO Bill Is One Of The Most Dangerous In The Nation
This year’s bill is being called an “Emergency Risk Protection Order” or ERPO in an attempt to lose the negative “Red Flag” reputation. It is also being pushed more than ever as being about suicide prevention. Don’t let any of it fool you. The devil is in the details; it’s in the 30 pages of bill language. You can read a complete break down of these 30 pages here, as well as watch a video going through the language line by line.
Here’s what you’ll hear the media say this bill does:
“A family member or law enforcement officer would petition a court to request the ability to immediately seize a person’s guns. If a judge signs the order, the weapons can be taken away and the court must hold a hearing within 14 days to determine whether to extend the seizure and bar the person from purchasing more firearms.”
Here’s what they wont tell you:
- Almost anyone can request an ERPO without even showing their face or providing their address. The definition of “family or household member” is so broad it includes ex-lovers who you have never even lived with! Or someone *claiming* you once had an affair. And even old roommates.
- The initial report and hearing can be done over the phone, all while the accused is completely oblivious proceedings are taking place to have his or her firearms confiscated. There is no due process at this first hearing – which is the hearing where permission is given to confiscate gun! Even Colorado Attorney General Weiser admits to the lack of due process. Watch his testimony here.
- The first time the accused learns someone has reported them will be when local law enforcement shows up at their door with an order AND a search warrant prepared to raid your home – while the accused never even committed a crime. This search warrant is a BRAND NEW type of warrant that is created in the bill – a gun owner specific civil search warrant. Read all about that here.
- 14 days later is the first time the accused will have a chance to defend themselves against this non-crime. The burden of proof will fall on the accused, not on the petitioner who can actually provide affidavits rather than attend court!
- The guns will be confiscated for 364 days, during which time the accused only has one opportunity to ask the courts to lift the order.
- There is zero accountability for false accusers. In fact, the filing fee is $0! For comparison, requesting a Temporary Restraining Order in Colorado is $97. Attorney General Weiser also admitted false claims will be par for the course. Listen to his statements here.
- This bill is being touted as a “suicide prevention” bill, when in fact, the fear of having your firearms confiscated will make people terrified to ask for help when they need it, and will undoubtedly escalate situations rather than deescalate them..
- It is so rife for abuse, it can easily be used by someone’s stalker or abuser to have their victim disarmed – legally.
- The ERPO will go on a person’s permanent record EVEN if it is dismissed, meaning it will show up on background checks, etc.
Read a complete write up of the bill here: www.rallyforourrights.com/colorados-red-flag-erpo-worse-than-you-think
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The Sherriff should ask her to go back into chambers and recant her statement that she had spoken to him and that he support support her concerning these ERPO’s. Get the record set straight and then tell her not to lie again.
Has anyone thought that the demoncrats and rinos could have the b a t f e look up 4133’s and use an anonymous red flag writ/order to deprive people of every registered firearm of anyone they see fit? Naw, the government wouldn’t do that? Obama bin ladin (pun intended) used the I R S against conservatives and the tea party. The courts (liberal courts) attacked Christians for not baking wedding cakes. It does happen. The government used the F B I and CNN (the Clinton news network) to attack and spread lies about the president and staff (and anyone else… Read more »
A 3am Military Tribunal, convened on their front lawn, would put a swift end to this. Dragged out of bed and outside to face charges of TREASON would fix their wagons. They know exactly what they are attempting to do, and they broke their oaths. They don’t deserve anything else. Our Founders would have them all strung up decades ago.
why didn’t anyone take this cunt on??? they should have pushed her a little and she would have popped like a pimple,then everyone would have seen her true face. women like this bitch is the reason i will never,ever vote for a woman for public office.
Aholes!
Is s(he) drunk or high?
Sounds it to me
Tionico either lies or is just 10 watt light bulb stupid:
He states: “Deduction: in Canada, when somone wants to exit stage left, guns are harder to come by so other means are employed, But the same percentage of people off themsevles one way or another”.
Go research published data from numerous credible sources. The US has much higher ranking, ratio, etc. (concerning suicides) than Canada.
Again and again, I find the radical gun right activist steer dumb stupid. The revelator lead the pact, but I guess he clocked out. Or, is a guilty victim of an ERPO.
So now it comes out. The green rat fink is not above childish insult any more than the other low level propagandists that troll here. Tooting horn, clanging cymbal, no truth.
You ammosexuals really need to get a life and stop with the paranoia! I live in above mentioned county and thankfully the gun nuts are outnumber by clearheaded, law abiding citizens.
Elmerg,
It seems the more guns they have, they more spooky they are. There is no coming to terms, middle ground with the radical right. As I type, my front door is wide open, and if needed my dogs do bite. I don’t hide with the blinds shut, door bolted shut, and xanex in hand fearing a 7 foot monster will come and take my BB gun from my cold dead hands.
Why should I relinquish ANY portion of my Constitutional Rights to you, when all you have are stereotypes and Strawmen?
What makes you think gun owners hide behind bolted doors? Also put a fresh bulb in your night light and you won’t be having nightmares about 7 foot monsters taking your BB gun.
better an ammo-sexual than a useless dhimmi-rat commie fag Constitution-traitor. look up the arrest/conviction rates for illegal aliens & “demo-citizens” compared to police and concealed weapon carriers. those who leave others alone will be left alone.
Speaking of ammo, know of any good sales of ammo running right now? BTW all calibers appreciated.
Aside from the Senator being caught lying, I was struck at how she addressed her constituents, you know, the people that hired her to represent them. She showed utter disdain for even being questioned about her statements, trying to cover her lies by citing some double talk and referring people to her admission she had made errors in the bill, NOT in her statement that she had discussed the bill with the sheriff and he had supported her. And then trying to control the room like she was the Queen. Even the sheriff couldn’t escape her wrath. Was she that… Read more »
She believes her constitutes are her servants all the while she is the sovereign. The roll of public servant and we the people as the boss (paying the bills) has reversed to the servants now as the sovereign, reducing the bill oaying taxpayers to serfs – yeah how dare you challenge the new sovereign!
If a Democrat is talking, everything of substance is an outright lie or an intentionally misleading partial truth.
This filthy hatchet wound must be recalled by her constituents. Give these democrat terrorists no quarter.
You Fascists sure do fake like you love America. The rest of us know better.
legislators like graham-nesty will piss down your back then say it’s raining
So, politicians can simply contravene the Constitutional right of due process with these “Emergency Risk Protection Orders”. The Law of the Land then becomes meaningless.
If CO passes this law, it seems like a good response would be for CO gun owners to start requesting ERPOs for EVERY politician, bureaucrat, judge, public official, anti gun activist, and government employee they can. After all, there are NO consequences for groundless ERPOs, and the filing fee is zero – so why not? Let’s see how THEY like being subjected to search warrants.
Fucking brilliant.
“a good response would be for CO gun owners to start requesting ERPOs for EVERY politician, bureaucrat, judge, public official, anti gun activist, and government employee they can” HankB, why stop there. Call in a request for an ERPO on anyone with a “Vote for(insert Democratic candidate name) bumper sticker”. I mean, really, isn’t anyone who would vote for a Democrat, or suggest that you should, clinically crazy and is a threat to themselves and others? If they get swamped with enough requests that they can’t respond to all of them they will have to start investigating each one to… Read more »
start with the lying wench described above. Her public outburst of anger is proof enough she cannot be trusted in public with guns.. or without a custodian.
She perjured herself, too… that sheriff ought to file charges against her for that.
Will he?
I’ll repeat what we, in the RKBA community have been pushing, ever since these so called “ERPO” laws surfaced; they need to be labeled exactly what they are, NOT Emergency Risk Protection Orders but Mandatory Gun Confiscation Orders without due process. For those of you in CO and other States, start demanding that Legislators answer the following question: If a person is so dangerous that they must have their firearms confiscated, why are they left free to roam the streets where they can have access to any other weapon to do harm to themselves or others? Why are they not… Read more »
Perfectly stated!
So, now everyone is a psychiatrist…lovely, but not true.
THIS kind of deceptive, evil behavior is what we are facing. It is characterized by lying, then by deflecting once caught in the lie. This is the technique used to confuse the uninformed and uneducated, and sway them to the side of such subversive actions against their own fellow citizens, including those who have done no wrong. So very bad!
Imagine that, a Democrat LYING….. Hell, that is EXPECTED anymore ! It takes a special FOOL to vote for a democrat.
Predicting a politician that tells lies, more reliable than gravity.
Watching the video, ….. several interesting things stand out. She’s caught lying to her constituents and continues to attempt it by back-stepping a few times She works very hard to control the meeting, not allowing anyone to question or speak up – a control freak politician She’s a very, very angry person – when the audience claps because she’s caught lying she claps her hands, shouting to take control again She looks directly into the camera as though she’s a celebrity She continues lying on camera when saying she’s happy to hear their concerns She doesn’t give a damn about… Read more »
She is a typical Democrat trying to disarm citizens while she is in violation of the Constitution! Outright Lies about the Sheriff and about his position on the bill. The Green Watch Dog suggests a conspiracy from the Right, well it would seem that the Conspiracy is between that elected official and the Green Watch Dog who is attempting to defend that deplorable action! You are being called out, defending a Liar, knowing she was caught in her Lie, shows the direction your moral compass points!
General Patton once said that politicians are the lowest form of life and that Democrats are the lowest form of Politicians.
I hate to break it to you but that is a fake quote. I have been a study of General Patton and respect all his views but this isn’t true, it’s internet BS.
Regardless of who said it, it’s true.
Zackley
Perfect candidate for a recall.
It does appear that State Senator Donovan is grossly mislead. From viewing the video she does not help informing the public what the ERPO laws does for our nation. As the voice of the people will ultimately determine. I intend to voice my support for ERPOs. Maybe she is a plant for the Republican party to make law abiding and concerned citizens look bad? No confusion here.
It clearly violates the bill of rights. That’s what it does.
Did you read what the law allows?
So you intend to SUPPORT ERPO’s? Are you brain dead?
Please explain how mandatory gun confiscation, without due process, while leaving supposedly “dangerous” people free to roam the streets benefits anyone?
No sitting back after throwing crap on the wall and seeing if it’ll stick. Either answer or admit you really don’t know what you’re talking about.
Vanns40,
Its more than insuring that perps do not have the means to go out and intentionally harm others. Another part of the equation is to curb suicide. Unfortunately guns are the weapon of choice for it’s effectiveness. One reality is that during an order to serve warrant, there will be (a very small %) when an occupant at home is injured or killed. 100% due to their noncompliance to surrender. Call it collateral damage, friendly fire, etc. Or lets call it what it really is: Resisting arrest, and the occupant’s intent to harm others.
Gr. Watch Dog: And unfortunately for you, as usual, the facts and the Constitution are not on your side. There is absolutely no statistical evidence showing that denying someone one Right will prevent them from committing an act another way. In fact, it’s just the opposite. Japan, which has virtually eliminated the private ownership of firearms has a suicide rate 45% higher than that of the United States. As for so called “non-compliance”, how many murders, by police, in the middle of the night, breaking down the doors of law abiding citizens is acceptable to you? We’re already aware of… Read more »
Hey Green Weeeeenieeeee Look at Canada’s suicide stats. They are similar in demographics to the US, but far more prohibitive for handguns, and more prohibitive for long guns. Their overall suicide rate is nearly identical to ours. But their suicide by GUN rates are a small fraction of ours. Deduction: in Canada, when somone wants to exit stage left, guns are harder to come by so other means are employed, But the same percentage of people off themsevles one way or another. So on WHAT basis can you claim that these unacceptible laws will redice SUICIDES? They may well reduce… Read more »
As always you cherry pick anything to do with ERPO’s and put’s the blame back onto the law abiding citizen. You’re so ignorant to know “Friendly fire” isn’t friendly and collateral damage isn’t acceptable. “This bill is being touted as a “suicide prevention” bill, when in fact, the fear of having your firearms confiscated will make people terrified to ask for help when they need it, and will undoubtedly escalate situations rather than deescalate them.” “It is so rife for abuse, it can easily be used by someone’s stalker or abuser to have their victim disarmed – legally.” “The ERPO… Read more »
The problem is that “Its more than insuring that perps do not have the means…” that is the problem. This effects everyone’s Constitutional Rights not just perps. Suicide is already against the law. See how well that works. There is no “order to serve a warrant” the judge signs the search warrant or arrest warrant. Are you from this country? Must be nice to be so all knowing at to predict the percent of injured. Will that be more than the number of suicides? How does that balance? There is no acceptable collateral damage or friendly fire in American law… Read more »
Hmm, you’ll note that he has no reply when I turned it around and made HIM the object of a midnight raid!
TGW: Wants to curb suicides. Doesn’t care how many get killed to do so.
That much Irony could supply a blacksmith for years….
That was a thought: Suppose I offered $5,000 to anyone who would furnish the identity of GWD and his address? Then I got two people to anonymously send emails or call the police in his jurisdiction and say he’d been acting irrationally and they’d heard him muttering what sounded like threats and he had a stockpile of guns and ammo.
Next thing you know the SWAT team breaks down his door and takes all his guns. How would he feel then? It’s a very real probability. Let’s see if he replies.
What we do know is that you and State Senator Kerry Donovan don’t understand what these ERPO laws truly are, anti-gun BS that’ll only affect law abiding citizens and deprive them of many of their rights should they falsely be accused.
I voice my support in deporting you, and any other trolling shills like you, to another country without a constitution, so you’ll quit attempting to ruin the greatness of ours! Red Flag/E.R.P.O. laws are nothing but attempted backdoor gun confiscation and the first misstep down that slippery slope all the lib-tards, and apparently you, love so dearly! If you cant recognize and admit that, or rather WONT recognize and admit that, then you are no better than the lying, manipulative, tyrannical gun grabbers yourself, and you should be investigated for treason! How about we apply your beloved Red Flag/E.R.P.O. laws… Read more »
Dear Green “Gerald” Watch Dog:
I very much appreciate your posts and that you never come back to argue your point. You are the perfect shill. What I appreciate even more are the thorough replies that completely dismantle and disprove every point you make. Yours are the same tired points we hear every day and the cogent responses from the 2nd Amendment supporters here are priceless in their refutation. I take notes. Thank you, again!
What a sleazy, lying bitch.
That shrill, fat0bottomed liar needs to be voted out of office, or, better yet, RECALLED.
repeat: how can u tell if when a dhimmi-rat is lying? when its lips r moving…
correction: how can you tell when a…
If this woman was found in a dumpster with two “self inflicted” GSWs to the back of the head, I don’t think there should be an investigation. She’s clearly suicidal.
Your comments are not helpful.
Nothing wrong with wishful thinking, it’s still legal and a first amendment right, whether it’s helpful or not is irrelevant.
I’m pro gun, and will not surrender mine, but dude You make us look bad. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh