Illinois Gun Law Forces Gun Owners to Incriminate Themselves

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U.S.A. — Gun owners in Illinois are dealing with a world of unconstitutional gun laws. Aside from the 2nd Amendment challenges to a semi-automatic firearm and magazine ban, which has gone through the southern and northern districts and is now in the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, they may also be dealing with a 5th Amendment violation issue. The gun and magazine ban does not just prohibit the sale of certain semi-automatic firearms and magazines; the ban also requires a self-registration registry. Registration requirements start in October.

The violation of the 5th Amendment rights of Illinoisans comes from this mandatory registration that is being put on gun owners with a deadline of January 1, 2024. The registration mandate requires gun owners to give the State a list of all their newly “illegal” guns. The registration mandate includes all “banned” semi-automatic firearms and parts. In other words, anything that the state of Illinois may consider an “assault weapon.”

That doesn’t seem right, does it? The state bans your perfectly legal (and in common use) guns & magazines and then makes you turn yourself in?

The state of Illinois seems to be forcing gun owners into self-incrimination, ignoring the protections allowed to American Citizens under the 5th Amendment.

The 5th Amendment reads: “No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or Naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of war, or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense, to be twice put in jeopardy of life, or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Attorney Thomas Maag, who will be filing documents in court against the state of Illinois within the next few weeks, said, “We are actually working on a motion on the 5th Amendment argument as we speak. Frankly, we’re really concerned when this whole registration period starts if it’s not previously enjoined, that, with the vagueness, with a whole host of issues, people would be incriminating themselves.”

Attorney Thomas Maag had previously filed the 5th Amendment argument as part of his previous challenge in the Southern District, but it had been postponed, so the law is currently in effect.

Maag will be filing that 5th Amendment challenge in the hopes of protecting gun owners from having to incriminate themselves and face criminal consequences if they don’t register. We will most likely see this work its way through the courts. With any luck this could possibly get a preliminary injunction on the registry component of this law before it goes into effect in October.


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63Sunset

Is this not the same as an all Jews identify yourselves law?

Henry Bowman

Pretty much. Someone needs to resume selling these to gun owners in restrictive states!

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RetUSAF

The fat bastard Pigzker is Jewish. He is the type of jew, that if he lived in Europe during WW2, he would have ratted out his fellow Jews to the Nazis. He is one sorry peace of work and only got elected by spending 300 million of his own money to buy votes.

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Link

He is like George soros.

Dr. Strangelove

Prickster is Jewish? No kidding.

hippybiker

And, the funny(sic)thing about is, that the Jewish mayor of SHITcago is pushing the travesty of justice!

Darkman

You deserve the Tyranny…You Allow. Even the Founding Patriots understood that and dealt with it accordingly.

Bigfootbob

You’re a freakin idiot, period. You DESERVE mockery for being S-T-U-P-I-D. You better run along now, your village wants their idiot back.

Logician

He’s right, Bfb! Prove him to be wrong, if he really is! The burden of proof of a claim ALWAYS lays right at the feet of the claimant.

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Straight-Shootr

Howz your back healing up?
Just curious..

That barbed wire on the border of Lower Dumbphuuuckistan can leave some nasty wounds…

Darkman

Bit of a guilty conscious there Snowflake. Obviously you are one of the Allowers.

Link

Unfortunately gun owners are outnumbered by anti-gun stupidity.
We do not condone any tyranny.
But are also limited in stopping it at times.

Darkman

Keeping in mind that gun owners have all the guns and gun grabbers don’t.

Logician

That’s not entirely true! A guy was circulating a petition or something against guns amongst a Democrat’s campaign staff, and one guy refused to sign it. When asked why, he very quietly said that he really couldn’t do that because he himself is a gun owner!!
Ted Kennedy, that without worth POS, was rabidly anti-gun, but yet he had a 24/7/365 security detail protecting his lard filled azz with fully automatic guns!!!

Bubba

They would like us to believe that.
They have more firearms then most.
Also they have trained armed security so as not to get their own hands dirty.

The solution is to pass a law through Congress that if you are outspoken in anyway or vote to ban or remove anyone’s right to bear arms you are not allowed to have any armed security on or around you.

Watch the tune change quickly to abortion, trans rights or climate change.

swmft

better deport anyone who is against constitution to whatever shithole their ancestors came from

Gunner

Ct also reclassified commonly owned legal weapons as AW’s then banned them all. We are forced to register all AW’s and Magazines. Unserialed are illegal to own. No more home made weapons. Now waiting periods and monthly limits. Next they will be knocking on doors!

Bill

Buy using cash only!

Gunner

I seriously doubt you can buy a gun in Ct without a paper trail. All transactions, private and retail require you to call in for NIC check. Ct retains all 4473 and DPS-3-C form info and Ct has a defacto registration list. Unfortunately it is illegal to transfer a firearm retail or private in Ct without a form and a call for a NIC authorization number.

Darkman

What’s 1 more felony, when the state makes you a felon for exercising your Constitutional Rights. At what point does the citizenry stand up and say Hell No we will not comply. As did the Founding Patriots that fought and died to give you the Freedoms you enjoy. As well as leaving you the responsibility to protect, defend and pass along those Rights. To your decedents.

Bubba

All FFL’s should destroy all 4473 forms at once.
FATF and FJB.

swmft

a fire in the storage area that was contained

PMinFl

Glad I got out of Connecticut before leaving becomes a taxable event.

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Boz

The Thirteen Colonies should be ashamed of what has become of them.

Darkman

The people living in those states should be ashamed. Especially the ones who have decided to become Subjects of the state, rather than Free citizens.

ridgeview

Most people in said states did not vote for that or them!

TGP389

I read AR owners’ compliance is much less than 5%. Good job, people of Connecticut.

Arizona

What’s repugnant to the Constitution (all you listed) is without force of law and the gov has zero authority to enforce. Doesn’t mean they won’t try, but if everyone does their duty and ignores these criminals, they cannot enforce. It is your right and duty to disobey unjust laws.

swmft

it does mean people need to band together and arrest the police when necessary

Rodoeo

And yet crime is up 100% across the board in that state…go figure.

RetUSAF

Illinois’s 500lb fat ass governor Pigzker also pushed the No Bail law, and just signed a new law allowing None Citizens to become Police Officers. You can’t make this shit up, Gov Pigzker is an insane Tyrant!

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ridgeview

He is just following orders like a good democrat MARXIST party member!

swmft

and they say stalin is dead

Henry Bowman

The enemies of liberty want to take away ALL of your rights, not just the 2A. We need to expose them for the tyrants, quislings and Jack-Booted Thugs that they are! As for Illinois, they are competing with Commiefornia & NY to be the worst gun-control state in the nation. We need to wreck their plans!

Ledesma

Leftist movements across the world have always remained strongly patriotic to their nations. The US produced the only one known who is not.

Bill

Interesting how converting a nation to poverty and slavery is a form of “patriotism”. Sure, a tyrant is very fond to keep a a strong hold over his country, and Bolsheviks wanted to take their country out of the hands of the Czar. But I think a thorough definition of patriotism is needed here, beyond being merely a desire to take over one’s own country and rule it ruthlessly. If the Commies took over America, under this vague description, they would suddenly become “patriots”, too, just like in the USSR, China, Ethiopia, Cuba, Brazil, Venezuela, etc. Patriots all, I am… Read more »

Henry Bowman

That’s because in the US, we have everything that previous marxist movements wanted. We have such a high standard of living, even the poorest people in America live like kings compared to 3rd world $#itholes. The simple fact of the matter is that ALL marxist movements are predicated on tearing down & destroying the old order so they can build their communist “utopia” on its’ ruins. Here, they’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but first they kill the baby before throwing it out with the bathwater…

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Shotsmith

You’ve been trained to get the jab, wear a mask, shelter in, never question election results and worship the swamp gods, so why wouldn’t they think you’d just go ahead and incriminate yourself.

Some people will put up with almost anything before getting angry. The line was crossed when they told us we had to get the jab and restricted our freedom to move around. Why we let them keep stacking on I’ll never know.

Never vote Democrat and choose your conservatives wisely?

Dubi Loo

Since PRICKster bought and paid for justices of the ILL SC, the fix is in. The US Constitution be damned.

RetUSAF

The fat Bastard should be swinging from a rope. That is if they can find a rope strong enough.

Boom

That’ll be the new hemp…haha

Bubba

It looks like a civil war is more and more needed to restore our Constitutional Republic.

These assclowns will not stop until put down like the rabid dogs they are.
This goes for the CEO’s of the Media organizations and big tech.

Then and only then can we get back to a life without a tyrannical government forcing unconstitutional laws and edicts on us.

ridgeview

We need to go back to the way the founders intended ,in ever way shape and form.

swmft
  • teach god in school without religion, so whatever their beliefs they are pious
Mikial

This is exactly the kind of tyranny the Founding Fathers warned about. Unfortunately, racist scum like the shooter in Jacksonville with swastikas on his guns as he murdered black people over the weekend are giving the Libs all the ammunition they need to keep pushing gun bans and Draconian laws. They and their pet media scream about incidents like this and then punish millions of law-abiding gun owners who never hurt anyone.

ridgeview

do we really know that for fact, i wonder!

Tek_180

Prickster can register my dirty underwear.

Cappy

Tyranny allowed is tyranny justified. Illinois, you voted for these tyrants. They are yours.

Bigfootbob

Don’t feed the Bears. Idiots who post things like that probably are either stupid voter skeptics that should be shunned or dim operators trying to stir dissent that also should be shunned.

City/States are a problem overlooked by our Founders along with the cowardice of the elected, hence the growth of the unconstitutional administrative law.

Logician

There are no elections any longer, just selections from very short lists of “approved” candidates. Read the book Votescam sometime, it will give you the education that you lack. And read Compromised: Bush, Clinton and the CIA.

Bill

Yup . The Socialist Democrat Party controls Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston and El Paso. Fortunately I live out on the boondocks. With the influx of foreigners from other states, I don’t know how much longer Texas will remain red. Maybe the world will end before they get a chance to screw-up Texas!

ridgeview

If the marxist democrats flip Texas, its game over no other party will ever win!

swmft

an un civil war will ensue and killing deamoncrats will become a sanctioned sport

Bill

The perpetual travesty is that, even in a republic, the minority routinely allows its values, its property, and even its existence to be voted into oblivion by a majority. The wolves vote to have the sheep for dinner, and the sheep accept those results. It happens here every day, as it has happened repeatedly around the world. Often, even a minority of pushy people pose as a majority, and they get their way, tricking the actual majority, the famous silent majority. As Andrew Jackson said, “One man with courage makes a majority.” Unfortunately, most “good people” usually do as they are told by… Read more »

ridgeview

From a young age they tell me i never ever have done as i was told! Asset or disability your opinion, i got mine!

swmft

guess I am not good

ridgeview

If you think that most voted for these clowns i got a bridge for sale cheep!

musicman44mag

It’s ocean front property in Arizona. London Bridge is in AZ. How much do you want?

Ledesma

Citizen obligation to compliance was never limitless. Maybe they’ll hear about it…

Stripeseven

Well, these actions seem to be covered under this…Does it not? History and Text of Section 242 Section 242 originates from section 2 of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Congress amended and broadened the statute in 1874 pursuant to its constitutional authority to enforce the protections of the Fourteenth Amendment through “appropriate legislation.” Although Congress has amended the statute several times since then and changed its location in the U.S. Code, the law’s core prohibition has changed little since the nineteenth century. As currently in force, Section 242 imposes criminal penalties on any person acting “under color of any… Read more »

Logician

Isn’t the Universal Get Out Of Jail For Free Card, the one where we demand to see our written guarantee that we will actually GET a fair trial, and on the flip side of the card, a demand for a written guarantee that no man or woman will commit any kind or amount of fraud upon us in the fake trial? You see, the entire legal system is a scam, a fraud, an artifice that is designed to steal us blind! It’s a world wide crime syndicate that is masquerading as a bastion of truth and justice, when nothing could… Read more »