Report on El Paso Gun “Buyback” October 28, 2023

Report on El Paso Gun "Buyback" October 28, 2023
Report on El Paso Gun “Buyback” October 28, 2023

Gun turn-in events are labeled with the Orwellian term “buyback.” They are not “buybacks”. You cannot “buy back” items you never owned before.

The El Paso gun turn-in event was held on October 28, 2023. It was scheduled to start at 8:00 a.m. It started about 10 minutes early in Ascarate Park. The money for the event came from the American Rescue Plan, where the Biden administration created 1.5 trillion dollars out of totally recyclable electrons. The politicians who receive the money must find a way to spend it. Gun turn-in events are a way to expend money. KVIA.com reported significant money had been handed out by 10 a.m. From kvia.com:

According to El Paso County Commissioner Carlos Leon, $60,000 worth of gift cards were made available by the county to be exchanged for firearms, and by 10 a.m., $51,000 worth had already been handed out.

That amount equated to roughly three hundred guns, including handguns, rifles, shotguns, assault style rifles, as well as antique firearms.

Of the $300,000 allocated for these events in El Paso, $120,000 will be used for advertising and administrative costs.

El Paso was not as gun-friendly as Dallas. The city is a Democratic stronghold. Private buyers were asked by the police to set up across the street from the entrance to the event. El Paso needed an advocate like CJ Grisham.

There were five private buyers at the El Paso event. Police were not as friendly as at the Dallas event. They asked the participants for identification and insinuated the private buyers were doing something illegal. When the participants politely refused, the police officers told them to have a good day and left. The private buyers were dressed in casual attire.

This minty HK VP9 was purchased for cash at the El Paso event. The event organizers were offering $150 for handguns.

An acquaintance of a participant in El Paso said he would have considered the private buyers to have been federal agents doing sting operations because of how they looked and dressed.

Opportunities to obtain guns for little money picked up after the gift cards ran out. The cards ran out at about 11 a.m., an hour before the event was scheduled to end.

An officer at the event told a participant the police would not destroy “historical” guns. Historical is a flexible term. It is hoped many valuable and collectible firearms were preserved.  One private buyer obtained a Remington 24 or 241, a near copy of the Browning .22 autoloader.

Remington model 241, image from Rock Island Auction, with permission.

Another private buyer paid $100 for this Oxford Arms Co. double barrel. Oxford Arms Co. was a store brand. The hammerless shotguns made for Oxford Arms in the 1920s and 30s were solid guns, a variation of the Stevens 311. It is common for older rubber recoil pads to deteriorate after 50 or 60 years.

Oxford Arms double barreled shotgun.

A private buyer obtained this Ruger P94 in .40 caliber at the El Paso event. The Ruger P94 pistols have an excellent reputation as solid, reliable, accurate pistols.

Ruger P94 in .40 caliber.

El Paso will be holding additional gun turn-in “buyback” events. Dates for the additional events have not been released at this time. If $60,000 is allocated to each event, two more events are budgeted.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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CJ

I would have.

CJ

I am more than willing to go out there an serve as simply a legal observer for privae buyers at the next one, but El Paso is an 8-hour drive from me (AND I LIVE IN CENTRAL TEXAS!!). I do have a friend with a small plane that could fly me, but either way I would need about $750 solely for expenses. I wouldn’t charge for time. If a group wants to cover that, email me the date/time of the next one to [email protected]

Boom

OH HOLY SMOKE! you’re the real CJ Grisham!!! I thought you were just being funny, making a play on your screen name…

Your like celebrity. Maybe I should just say you’re famous. ….I just electronically met a famous-celebrity. Oh btw, hi, I’m Boom.

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Last edited 11 months ago by Boom
Trussman

There are millions of people ate up with the dumbass. I’m waiting for them all to turn into zombies, it’s only a matter of time, considering all the crap they’re being fed from the far left.

Duane

Private sales the check from registration and confiscation

Colt

in other news…
Brandon Herrera was at a “gun buy back” in San Antonio…
he said some moron turned in a “full auto” Uzi in the box.
Rest in Peace Uzi…
I’m sorry you are going to be melted down into some libtard Subaru bumper.

Dubi Loo

More likely the Uzi will end up in a cop’s gun safe.

musicman44mag

More than likely if the cop moved from kommiefornia to Texas he will sell it to a felon and it will be back out on the streets within a few days.

Last edited 11 months ago by musicman44mag
BillyBobTexas

Disregarding the stupidity of those ‘sellers’, isn’t it a good idea to get these unwanted and under-appreciated weapons off the street – and away from untrained owners? It undoubtedly keeps some of them from being sold to ‘thugs’ and maybe accidentally by a child in a tragedy… besides the ‘across-the-street-buyers’ are getting some good deals! Tell me where I’m wrong about ‘gun buybacks’?

CJ

No one is buying, stealing, or using most of the crap being turned in. Even the private buyers don’t want most of it. The issue isn’t even the turn in itself, but the use of tax money to pay people for junk and worthless guns

Last edited 11 months ago by CJ
BillyBobTexas

C’mon, CJ….give me a REAL reason. Tax $$ ain’t it. It’s a pittance – they piss away 100X that every day on worthless programs. Address the down side of having LESS guns out there for the ignorant, untrained and unwilling owners. We should buy them ALL up! Get them the hell off the strteets.

Bubba

It’s different if we are buying them from a citizen than the government buying back something they never owned.

They should be calling the event “we will purchase you firearms at fair market price, no questions asked event”.

Boom

BillybobTexas…. Because some of those guns “would have” been the focal point of some young responsible boys start of a healthy gun appreciation…. Now it won’t….not only that. Some of these people are giving away someone else’s natural birthright… Maybe that 9 yr old doesn’t know it yet. But at some point, he will be disturbed to know that the only in the world of value of his grandpa’s, was left to a stranger…

There’s a reason….

PLUS, this is only a beginning….to soften public perception about turning in guns… FACT.

HLB

It is one of those things that people and the free market should handle – not our government. People have a responsibility to be safe. Others can help them with advice, or purchasing the weapons they don’t want. If people trust the government to hand those unwanted weapons over to, because they are the recognized authorities, maybe an off duty police officer can volunteer to help with a public unwanted guns purchasing event. He could greet the people, take the weapons, clear the weapons, and hand them up to the auction table. Any weapons not purchased could be used for… Read more »

BillyBobTexas

Dean…….The whole reason for buying them up IS to VOLUNTARILY get them off the street. There’s no shortage of guns in the stores. We don’t have to ‘recycle’ them back into commerce. Are you kidding? Think about it….wouldn’t we ALL be safer if those who are untrained, unwilling, or just don’t want a gun in there house – didn’t have one? Because they would not loan it out, give it away, or have it used by an untrained kid or stolen by a thug. YES! Destroy all the unwanted guns. What is wrong with that? There’s plenty more for you… Read more »

BillyBobTexas

HLB….counting on the government, and volunteers, and ‘others’ to give advice to unwilling, untrained. and unknowing gun owners is nutz! GET THEM OFF OUR STREETS! WTF is wrong with THAT? Best damn use of our tax dollars there is, IMO. This argument ain’t about ‘rights’ and ‘responsibilities’ and ‘trust’ and free market’. It’s about getting guns AWAY from people who should not have them, VOLUNTARILY> There are probably MILLIONS out there left over from a dead grandpa, parent, cousin, uncle, or friend that the new owner doesn’t want and are now just ‘targets’ for children and thugs. Buy the f’ing… Read more »

Bubba

I wish buying in another state was legal.

It’s definitely constitutional. But the FJB government says we can’t so we miss out on exercising our rights outside of our state. It’s bullshit.

Grigori

It was just as illegal under the previous administration, too.

HLB

Ok. I am going to step back from my life and try to look at this from your viewpoint, and then step back in to my life. There are guns out there that fall in to the “wrong” hands. There are a lot of wrong hands out there. This is due to the family element disappearing. Most guns are bought by people who have an interest in them and use them safely. For some reason, these interests are not passed along to the younger generation. I truly doubt that the people who purchased the guns were not interested in their… Read more »

Boom

HLB — you’re always on here talking sense… I bet that hasn’t gotten you real far in this life, huh? Haha. People are nuts… It’s been the bane of my existence…

People don’t realize how obvious they are sometimes…

WE KNOW A COLLABORATOR WHEN WE SEE ONE… That’s what I wanna say…

Oh, and long time no see, HLB

BillyBobTexas

It is NOT that the original buyer didn’t want their kids to learn and respect their guns….it’s that there IS NO FATHER around to teach these thugs that. THOSE are the guns the untrained mother, aunt, grandma doesn’t want. WHY would you want to let them stay in ‘circulation’ amongst the untrained, unwanted?Sorry dude – you’re on crack IF you think the Government is the best way to do this – like you accused me of. Absolutely not. YOU can set up gun buybacks – or get an organization to do that. I’m all for that!! IMO, the gov’t does… Read more »

Last edited 10 months ago by BillyBobTexas
Boom

Those are federal monies… It be better for state highways…