Trump/RFK Jr Team Up Would Betray Gun Owners

Just don‘t trust citizens of the REPUBLIC with guns? (Robert F. Kennedy, Jr/Facebook)

“People close to former President Trump made preliminary overtures to Robert F. Kennedy about the possibility of serving as his running mate,” the New York Post reported Saturday.

“I wouldn’t write it off by any means,” an unidentified “insider” told the Post. That assessment said to “still be alive in Trump circles,” was shared by two large donors, one of whom asserted, “Bobby can bring new people to the polls.” And no less a prominent Trump supporter than former White House strategist Steve Bannon, “who remains close to the former president, has also pushed the idea and said in August that a Trump-Kennedy ticket would produce a ‘massive landslide.’”

Judging from reader comments, many are not just open to the idea but enthusiastic about it. And there are similar favorable reader reactions at supposedly “conservative” Fox News’ favorable report on the potential.

It would be a “yuge” mistake. Knowing the truth about Kennedy’s historic support for citizen disarmament would take the fire out of a lot of gun-owning voters’ bellies.

While he’s done respectable work exposing the corruption and bad “science” behind the government/pharma Covid cartel, Kennedy’s climate extremism (“ban fossil fuels, raise taxes, and pass a Green New Deal”), his “flip-flopping” on abortion, and out-and-out socialist embrace of “reparations” are disqualifiers by themselves.

But what about his siding with Texas on the border crisis and pledging to secure it? Assuming that is allowed to happen, how about the tens of millions already here? A “path to citizenship”? Chuck Schumer couldn’t have said it any better.

As The Federalist noted:

“RFK Jr. does promote some limited government, anti-establishment policies that conservatives and libertarians strongly support, but his leftist proposals far outweigh them.”

Add his personal and political affinity for citizen disarmament, and we’re talking a hard “No.” Consider a tweet he posted in 2018 – and then deleted; it’s not unfair to assume because it could hurt him politically:

“Let’s be honest. The NRA is as responsible for the MSD child murders as if they pulled the trigger. NRA has turned 2d Amendment into a suicide pact for our children. When do we deal with NRA?”

But wait, he now says, “My position on gun control is that I’m not going to take away anybody’s guns. I’m a constitutional maximalist and the issue has been settled by the Supreme Court.”

Does anyone believe him? Especially after arguing that “gun control cannot ‘meaningfully’ reduce gun violence” and then going for the Holy Grail of gun grabs:

“Kennedy said that he would get behind a bipartisan assault weapons ban, which the overwhelming majority of Democrats support, but has little chance of getting through Capitol Hill given widespread GOP opposition. ‘If we can get a consensus on it, if Republicans and Democrats agree to it and it passes Congress, I would sign it,’ he said.”

Trump has a problematic enough (and wholly self-created) record with gun owners, and putting Bobby Jr. on the ticket would only add to a growing TINVOWOOT sentiment among Americans who see that the left won’t stop pushing as long as they can do so with personal impunity. But say for a minute that Steve Bannon proves to be more politically savvy than he is principled, and a Trump/Kennedy campaign attracts enough independents to where even election interference and cheating can’t slip it to the Democrats:

Trump is getting up there in years. He’s not in the best shape. He’s been having some pretty significant slip-ups, particularly with the Haley/Capitol Security brain f*rt that the Democrat media is having a field day with as it ignores Biden’s daily dotage.

How does it benefit gun owners to put a guy who thinks NRA members are murderers and the Second Amendment is a suicide pact for children a heartbeat away from the presidency?


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Orion

Kennedy is a big NO on the ticket with Trump. his views and statements will never go away.

musicman44mag

Oh really? I saw an interview where he said ‘it is not time to take Americas guns away yet”. I can’t find it now.

Arizona

Which implies he believes presidents have the power to do so, and will in the future. They don’t. They’ll start a civil war trying.And they will lose.

Ledesma

It hardly matters where they stand. Guns are here by supreme law of this land! And they are here to stay! A position much bigger than any candidate for anything. But gun haters certainly have rights too. They are free to never touch a gun.

Rob

Would that that were true in both words and action.

gsteele

Yes – Supreme Law; one caveat: have you noticed the Demorrhoids paying attention to the Constitution lately – or ever – when it gets in the way of their agenda? Does the President’s Constitutional obligation to defend the American people (Oath: preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution/Preamble: provide for the common defense) stand in the light of the southern border insanity?

2AGunster

Lock N Load for it is coming our way!

Rob

Which implies he thinks there IS A TIME to take guns away. Read for content!

musicman44mag

the problem with allot of politicians is you always have to read between the lines.

PMinFl

Politicians most often tell you exactly what they’re up to, it’s just that we don’t want to believe that they really mean it, “they’re just saying that for their base”. No, they really mean to buck us over

2AGunster

Evil can’t lie, they just spin it!

Darkman

The people who have betrayed firearms owners are members of the BOD of the NRA. Most importantly Wayne Lapierre and those who supported his corruption.

Arizona

Yup, NRA negotiated our rights away, writing or aiding and supporting every gun control bill congress passed, starting with NFA.

nrringlee

And the Republican Party as a whole. The Republican Party is a progressive party. It is not a party of liberty nor is it a Constitutional Party dedicated to the premises and principles put forth in our Declaration of Independence. Corporatism and progressivism are the reigning mantras of the current Republican Party. I do respect Bobby Kennedy for his work on vaccine risks and especially his resistance to the Branch Covidian mantra and mythology. But remember this one truth: there are no true liberals left. Everyone left of center in American politics has been seduced by the siren Sogn of… Read more »

Ledesma

Kennedy is as liberal as they come. Anywhere he surfaces we lose!

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Darkman

You are Nucking Futs…

Arizona

No one should be allowed to even run for president unless they affirm that the gov has no power or authority to regulate guns, much less ban them, as to regulate is to infringe. All rights in the BOR are absolute, unalienable rights… or they are nothing but privileges and suggestions that can be undermined and erased. The 23,000 gun laws do nothing to reduce crime, and are truly aimed at disarming the general populace and ensuring they are defenseless against the government.

Shotsmith

NO! HELL NO! Why the hell would we put a Democrat on the republican ticket one step away from the presidency? The left is peeing their panties with the anticipation of the event.

NEVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT, AND CHOOSE YOUR CONSERVATIVES WISELY!

Jim

Trump/Kennedy reeks of desperation. It also shows the lack of decent candidates for all elected offices. Good people won’t run because the machine will grind them down. So we end up with guys like Biden, McConnell, Schumer, Kennedy, and even Trump.

Handy N Handsome

A Kennedy is a Kennedy is a Kennedy.

Kristi Noem is looking good, but maybe not for VP. Ha!

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Bigfootbob

Keep repeating that line, Mr. Green! He’s a serious danger to Freedom and Liberty everywhere even in your neck of the woods at Possum Lodge. We certainly have had enough Kennedy’s from the Northeast.

John Kennedy from Louisiana is another matter, I wish the northern klan were like him.

Rodoeo

I’ll take wonder woman over any of these clowns

musicman44mag

KENNEDY IS ANTI-GUN!!!!! I just said I would vote for Trump no matter who he picked. I must pull that statement and rephrase it. If he takes Kennedy, the left will kill Trump like they have been calling for and then we will have him for president. He has stated “now is not the time to take Americas guns away”. I am surprised that is not on here but I cannot find it anymore. I saw the interview before he threw his hat in the ring and all I browsed was Robert Kennedy Jr 2nd amendment rights and it came… Read more »

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musicman44mag

I do have my limitations and others do to. If a democrat ran and said I will not take anything of your second amendment away and I believed them, I would vote for that person rather than Trump if he has a libtard for VP. Problem is, they don’t exist, and I don’t trust any government anymore because it is no longer by and for the people it is by the government and for the government and we are nothing more than the slaves that provides the paycheck for the tyrants in power to abuse us. The NWO has to… Read more »

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Coelacanth

Don’t let ANY Kennedy anywhere near the White House!

Coelacanth

Except John Kennedy, the great Senator from Louisiana! OOPS!

musicman44mag

Move to time 2:11 to see the real RFK Jr and his feeling about gun control. He changes with the wind just like a real politician. Says he supports a bi partisan vote to ban “ASSAULT weapons”. Don’t let the fake news and his new lies fool you.

Here’s where the 2024 presidential candidates stand on guns – ABC News (go.com)

Cam

I don’t trust the people and neither did the founding fathers. That’s why we have a republic

GoodGuy729

Trump has already betrayed gun owners with his bump stock ban executive order. I have NO faith that he won’t do something even worse if the-elected. Kennedy Jr. is a wildcard for sure.

PMinFl

Should RFK,jr appear along side of DJT on the ballot then this would be the first time that I couldn’t vote in 55 years for anyone.

JNew

Luckily, we don’t have “a democracy.”

Raconteur

“Democracy” has become the new pseudonym of “progressivism”, which is the misnomer of “socialism” and “Marxism”. I suppose when you are too embarrassed by your own ideology, you’ll call it anything to obfuscate what it truly is. Recall this, the next time you encounter the phrase “our democracy”.
 
Then you have the willing useful idiots who insist on using the propaganda terms and spreading the lies. We have never been a democracy. We are a constitutional republic, regardless of the propaganda being spewed by the useful idiots.

J.galt

The fact that he (kennedy) has not “gotten to the bottom” or exposed who killed JFK is a complete disqualifier. He is part of the cover up and a deep state tool.

The kennedys have been taught a permanent lesson by the deep state and he can’t be trusted to do what’s right for the country. Ever!!!

JimQ

No RFK, Jr on the ticket with a Republican. That is a clear middle finger to everyone who loves a strong, secure and prosperous America. RINOs are bad enough we certainly do not need a Democrat on the ticket

Montana454Casull

F- RFK Not interested in his Democrat slanted politics . He is just another gun grabber pretending he honors the constitution . A big NO period !

OlTrailDog

Javier Milei for president.

F Riehl, Editor in Chief

I see you got watch-listed again.. corrected try it now.

musicman44mag

Thank you. I wonder what I said other than I messed up and said something that was not true and that being the case, I deserve it. Thanks for fixing it.

In true democrat form, I did not apologize but unlike a democrat I admitted I made an error.

Grigori

“TINVOWOOT”? That is exactly what I have been saying for the last six or so years. Many of us sadly, have been programmed like sheep to keep believing that there is a way.

Last edited 9 months ago by Grigori
StLPro2A

RFKJr is distracting you with one hand, preparing to fuck you with the other hand. He is no constitutional conservative. Once a Libturd, always a Libturd…except maybe to distract real conservatives.

Bozz

A Republican president and a democrat VP? Has that ever happened before? I wonder how many democrat votes that would swing towards Trump. I’m not worried about an antigun VP with a semi pro 2A POTUS. We already have an anti 2A VP and what has she accomplished?

Rob

Kennedy on the Republican ticket in 2024 means I don’t vote Republican. WTF are they thinking? Kennedy’s going to take a sip of the Red Kool-Aid and be magically transformed? Biden’s poll numbers are on the “express elevator to hell” and there’s no one in the Dems cesspool of candidates on the horizon. Trump needs to find a running mate with both feet solidly planted in Second Amendment turf.

CarlosDanger

It isn’t reasonable to call it a “flip-flop” every time someone’s opinion evolves.
It is true that Kennedy has changed many of his positions in recent years, but so have a lot of other liberals. COVID, growing attempts at censorship, the weaponization of the bureaucratic state, and the outright lunacy of the current progressive leftists has forced many liberals to re-examine their views and political allegiances. Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Bill Maher, Dave Rubin, etc. are all examples of folks who have done so.

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Fyathyrio

Trump betrayed gun owners when he didn’t pick a decent leader for ATF. Trump betrayed gun owners when he asked congress for a suppressor ban because one was used in a crime that landed on lots of TV news. Thankfully he did not get that. Additionally, Trump betrayed gun owners when he chose to make millions of us into felons overnight with the bumpstock ban he had ATF magic into being. This led to ATF creating even more magic felons with frames & receivers, pistol braces, who is an arms dealer, and so on. When it comes to guns, orange… Read more »

DIYinSTL

Don’t forget his ‘first we take the guns’ comment in support of ERPOs (red flag laws.)

musicman44mag

Yep, didn’t like that one but at least it was regarding someone that might be a threat to themselves or someone else, not all of them no matter what like the current liar and thief bastard in office now or should I use the current presidents quote, oh oh oh I am choking and getting ready to puke just thinking that some people think he is a president, the “dumb son of a bitch” in office now.

FJB

Trump 2024

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Fyathyrio

I think the best way to put it, is that Trump is a politician 1st, and will sell out any group if the vote math works in his favor. If he thought finger-banging Kamala Harris on national TV would win him the election, I wouldn’t want to sniff his fingers. So, he spoke at the NRA when he thought that would work, then he said screw the 4A and separation of powers when it looked like that would work. While he is still better than the Dems, who want to keep their voters unarmed and helpless in the urban plantation… Read more »

musicman44mag

It’s killing me to. I want to do a road trip.

musicman44mag

No way. The bump stock ban did not become a full law until ATF changed its rules changing laws and that finalized them being illegal under O’biden and the reason for that was the courts found the ban unconstitutional under the then at that time current law which is exactly what Trump said he believed would happen. I don’t recall the suppressor news but I am not saying it is not true.

The ATF creating more magic felons is all under O’biden.

Oregoneistan

TRUMP 2024

Fyathyrio

Trump, personally, specifically directed the ATF to find a way to ban bumpstocks right after the Las Vegas shooting because some of the guns in the hotel room had bumpstocks installed. ATF did so under Trump. http://tiny.cc/5hblwz Just because it took a few years for the court battles does not change the fact that Trump made us felons by decree. Even Malignancy Pelosi said it would take an act of congress to ban them. There has been no report from the FBI on if bumpstock guns were actually used in the shooting, or just present in the room . .… Read more »

musicman44mag

Ok, all I can do is go by what the ATF has said which the link was pasted and dropped here and I read. I don’t have a bump stock so I really don’t have a dog in that fight and do have something in the fight to keep our guns. Like Trump or not, who else would win the republican primary and most likely beat mike obama.

So I was wrong and was talking out my ass, not the first time I thought I was right about something and was wrong. Headed out to dinner.

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Bozz

How does Trump’s record stand against Biden’s gun control efforts and Biden’s weaponization of the ATF?

Dubi Loo

Dead on balls accurate.

gsteele

What possible difference would it make? First, Trump has ruled him out, explicitly, as a running mate. But more importantly, the VP would have NO influence on Trump’s position on the Second Amendment. Can you name a SINGLE consequential act of a VP in American history? If he ENSURED a landslide, that would undoubtedly do a lot to shut up the malicious slanderers who would otherwise carp about every vote and attempt to undermine the administration for the following 4 years. And if he brings in a massive down-ticket wave, and a huge electoral and popular vote majority, then clowns… Read more »

hasbeen

sorry but anyone with the name of kennedy can not be trusted to let you keep your gun. trump and haley(?) maybe

John Dunlap

I can see by the other comments that the idea of a Trump/Kennedy ticket has really stirred the pot. It would be prudent to recall that Trump’s record on gun control and several other issues is not spotless, and that the D.C. Swamp hates RFK Jr. as much as they hate Trump, if not more. I’m not thrilled with the idea of Kennedy as Vice President, but I’m also not seriously worried about it. You never get everything you want in a candidate, nor can you trust ‘your guy’ any more than any other politician. As long as we, the… Read more »

2AGunster

No way in H#ll that will work, Trump will end up losing the election!