Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Gun Owners Foundation (GOF) have teamed up with Carl Higbie of News Max to sue New York State for refusing to issue gun permits to out-of-state residents and for refusing to recognize out-of-state gun licenses.
New York State law makes it virtually impossible for an out-of-state resident to possess a firearm within the Empire State. The law requires a permit for the mere possession of a gun. Under the law, only residents of the State can obtain a license. The New York law against the possession of firearms by people from outside the State is the strictest in the nation. The plaintiffs in the case claim that the New York law violates Americans’ right to keep arms and their right to bear those arms.
“Unsurprisingly, New York’s patently unconstitutional scheme represents an extreme outlier among the 50 states, as Plaintiffs are not aware of any state that similarly has no mechanism for nonresidents to keep or bear arms – by denying nonresidents the ability to apply for permits, by refusing to recognize or grant reciprocity to the out-of-state permits held by nonresidents, and by conditioning mere possession of virtually all firearms on the issuance of an unobtainable permit,” the suit reads. “In contrast, although Connecticut, for example, refuses to recognize other states’ carry licenses, Connecticut allows nonresidents to apply for Connecticut Pistol Permits, should they wish to carry firearms in Connecticut, provided they already have a license to carry from another state. Even California and Hawaii, which do not issue permits to nonresidents, still permit nonresident visitors to transport firearms within the State.”
GOA Senior Vice President Erich Pratt claims that New York State is thumbing its nose at the Supreme Court by enforcing the law. The State must prove that the current law is consistent with the original text, tradition, and history of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment doesn’t mention permits, so the burden of proof will fall on New York to provide analogues from the founding era.
“The State of New York and its cadre of anti-gun politicians have done everything in their power to weaken and outright ban the Second Amendment within their borders,” Pratt said. “The Supreme Court has made clear that the right to bear arms extends to the public square, and this right is for all Americans, not just those who are residents of individual states.”
If history is any indication, the State will try to use racist Jim Crow laws from the reconstruction period. New York State, in the past, attempted to argue that the founding era was not the ratification date of the Second Amendment. In other cases, New York has argued that the founding era started in 1868 with the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. The court has rejected that argument in the past.
GOF Board member Sam Paderes points out that the blanket ban on firearms for nonresidents is the only state law that bans out-of-state residents from having any guns at all. He says that the gun rights organizations will make the state fall in line with the Constitution.
“This is the only example nationwide that we can find where an out-of-state resident is completely barred from exercising their right to keep and bear arms, and there’s no doubt the anti-gun legislature in Albany purposely designed it this way,” Paderes said. “We’ve warned these politicians before and we’ll do it again, fall in line on the Second Amendment, or we will make you.”
Judge Glenn Suddaby has been assigned the case. He is the same federal judge who struck down New York’s Concealed Carry Improvement Act (CCIA).
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I thought I wrote that they need to go to Oregoneistan because we have the same thing here. You can’t get one if you don’t live in this state and we don’t recognize yours. That’s one of the reasons I am getting signatures to get Constitutional Carry in Oregone. The other is I am tired of paying for a right that has been turned into a privilege. The answer is constitutional carry across the nation with no exception. If you don’t like it, tuff titty and if you arrest someone for carrying that is from another state because you don’t… Read more »
The way I read this article it seems New York prohibits non residents from possessing ANY firearm. This would prohibit non residents from hunting, or participating in the shotgun sports of trap, skeet, sporting clays. I know that hunting and shooting, by non residents, in Oregonistan is not prohibited by any law. Not making any excuses for draconian carry laws in Oregonistan, but they’re certainly not New Yuck.
sad that the states that were pro rights have mostly gone down the crapper
All they have to do is to be like Hawaii. Their supreme court ruled tat the US Constitution does not apply, especially the 2nd Amendment.
After having spent nearly 10 years as a LEO, I wouldn’t enforce any of these ridiculous, obviously unconstitutional laws.
It boils my blood how these ultra-liberal politicians want to run a gestapo-like state against law abiding citizens, yet let illegal alien cop beaters out of jail with zero bail required, only to have them flee the state to never be punished.
This will save nobody. New York liberals will still go out and get shot everyday anyway!
Article IV, Section 2; “The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens of the Several States.”
It really is this simple…and music is correct about Oreganstan, which is interesting because there is a provision in their law for people who travel there regularly. The Sheriffs are dealing with it as they see fit. In other words unequal within the state itself.
We have long been in need of a well crafted and well supported case to force reciprocity across the nation and its territories. I hope this is it. A less than perfect or under supported case could prove fatal to this objective. Of course it would be immensely less expensive and much quicker if we had politicians and a president who would do the right thing.
They are never going to put a permanent end to any problem. Mainly because once you permanently solve a problem, there’s no more money in it for the lawyers to litigate.
And more importantly (to politicians, lobbyists, and advocacy groups,) fund raising.
Puerto Rico is similar. They will not recognize any out-of-territory permits even thought their law says they will establish reciprocal carry rights; because they won’t. I have contacted several state entities in Mississippi and have gotten no results on engaging with reciprocal carry between the state and territory. National reciprocity should include the non-state entities as well as all types of weapons; edged, long, short; and both open and concealed. I read that John Bolton, former US ambassador to the United Nations, said that Trump really does not understand the Constitution. So, when Trump is elected we are going to… Read more »
What about those of us retired LEOs from out of state who have an HR218?