Hunter Biden’s trial for lying on a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 4473 has kicked off in Delaware. The trial has split the Second Amendment community. Some gun owners hope he gets criminally convicted and sent to prison, while others believe that the 4473 is unconstitutional and that no matter what your opinion of the man on trial is, we shouldn’t root for unconstitutional laws.
Hunter Biden marked that he was not a user of illegal drugs on the ATF Form 4473 when he purchased his Colt Cobra revolver. At the time, Biden was using crack cocaine and various other drugs. It is against the law to lie on the form, and after a judge rejected a plea deal, he was charged and faces possible prison time if convicted.
President Joe Biden, who happens to be the most anti-gun President in the country’s history, is Hunter’s father. Many see the trial of the elder Biden’s son as poetic justice because the President wants to strip Americans of their gun rights, and the Justice Department has charged people for this same crime who were not the son of the President of the United States. But should we hope for a conviction?
Some say we should root for Hunter Biden to be convicted because other Americans in the past have been sent to prison for the same perceived “crime.” If the younger Biden gets off with a slap on the wrist, it will show a two-tiered legal system. One for the rich and powerful and one for the rest of us. But should we put aside our disdain for gun laws just this one time to see Hunter Biden go to prison? I say no.
No matter what you think of the Biden family, we must put our personal feelings aside and support the Second Amendment rights of all people, including those that we do not like. If we only apply human rights to those we agree with, then those rights will hold no real power. We must not be hypocritical.
We must take a no-compromise stance on our gun rights. Our rights are not optional, and we can’t strip someone of those rights just because they are a terrible person.
Someone once said, “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it with my life.” Although the statement applies to the First Amendment, we, as gun owners, must apply the same sentiment to the Second Amendment. We should want equal justice under the law, but not at the cost of hoping that a man gets found guilty of violating an unjust law.
You may not like what I’m about to say, but Hunter Biden is innocent. It is not illegal to be a crack head while owning a gun. The form 4473 itself is unconstitutional. Prove a law existed in the days just after 1791 that mandated the storage, ownership, or otherwise transfer of…
— Iraqveteran8888 (@Iraqveteran8888) June 3, 2024
Show me a law from 1791 that:
A. Says any drug is illegal
B. Says you have to get permission from the Government to own a gun and/or explosives…even warships
C. Says a person cannot own a gun if they use any drug, liquor, beer, etc— Iraqveteran8888 (@Iraqveteran8888) June 3, 2024
Many might disagree with my stance, but others do agree with me. One person with the same view I have is Eric Blandford, who is on the popular YouTube channel Iraqveteran8888. Blandford believes that everyone has the right to bear arms no matter who they are, even if they have had shady dealings with foreign countries, hired prostitutes, or used drugs.
“No matter what you think of Hunter or his dad, the law is unconstitutional,” Blandford told AmmoLand News. “This isn’t about Biden. It is about our natural rights.”
We have an opportunity to show the country that we are true believers in gun rights, not just for the people on our side of the political spectrum but for all people. Gun rights, like other human rights, should not be a political issue, even though the right to bear arms has been marred by politics. We should strive to show that we genuinely believe in what we say and extend the same freedoms to those on the other side of the fence.
About John Crump
John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.
That would never happen. He will be found innocent or get an itsy bitsy wrist slap, while not a single rule, regulation or law connected to his case will change one bit…. Because the federal government is corrupt to the core, and violates the Constitution that created the gov and allows it a few specific powers (which politicians and bureaucrats criminally expanded)
Let one POS criminal go free who will likely go free anyway, and restore my gun rights? Hell yeah, deal me in!!!!
Not just yeah, but HELL YEAH! Deal me in too!! But let’s take it up a few notches, and expose the crimes and criminality of the entire legal system!!
Gentlemen, the Biden boy has to have a jury find him guilty so that his lawyers can appeal on the basis that that part of the GCA is unconstitutional. Then the Appeals Court has to find that that part of the GCA is contrary to some part of the Constitution.
A jury finding the Biden boy not guilty saves Biden, the GCA, and the Biden boy.
At this point Joe has to be praying that Hunter does get convicted. That way he can campaign on his “No one is above the law” mantra (before commuting Hunter’s sentence after the election). If Hunter is acquitted it will be seen as blatantly two-tier justice, which would be bad for Joe’s campaign. As Wild Bill said, the trial court could dismiss the charges as unconstitutional but that won’t have any effect on the law for the rest of us. We want a conviction at the trial court so that the case goes to the appellate courts. But even if… Read more »
Do you remember when O’bummer said that congress deserves no better health plans than what We the People get and then pushed his obummercare through and it passed? Remember, just sign it and we will fill you in on the details later? Then one month later O’bummer reviewed it and changed his mind and decided that congress deserves better medical than us and congress got it.
I expect something like that to happen!!!!
Trump 2024
The easiest way for the trial court to dodge the problem is to decide that Hunter didn’t lie because at the time he filled out the form he had completed drug rehab and was living with a ‘sober companion’ and (supposedly) was not using drugs at that time. If you look at the 4473, the key question says “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” — that question is in the present tense — it does not ask “Have you ever…” it only asks “Are you…”… Read more »
Going through rehab doesn’t “cure” you of your addiction. It does not make you “not addicted”. Ask a recovering alcoholic, or other substance abuser, if he is no longer addicted. There is no such thing as “no longer addicted”.
I had a friend at work that always said she was a recovering alcoholic. I asked her one day how long is she going to be recovering and how long had it been since she had her last drink. She said 10 years ago and I am only one drink away from becoming one again. My wife had a co-worker who quit heroin. She went through rehab and wanted to use again and called her counselor. The counselor asked her if she wanted to be there to take care of her 5 and 7 year old. She said yes. Then… Read more »
that has been biden’s lawyers defense all along.
That is the only way he should avoid jail, by the judge declaring the law unconstitutional. But what will really happen is he will get off, yet others who did the same will be jailed this year, and next, and on and on. The unconstitutional law must finally be applied equally to connected democrat scum, and must continue to apply equally to them until we get this and all gun laws thrown out by SCOTUS finally doing their job.
There are many facets to this case, and the one that should be most obvious to all, but isn’t, is that the 100% corrupted legal system/Matrix cannot be trusted for anything at all! Nor should it be obeyed, because criminals have NO Right to tell others what to do! Convicted and sent to prison or not, the undercut in facts and logic is that the legal system/Matrix is totally bogus, and therefor has zero real power or authority over any man or woman!
His dad spent 40 years in the Senate promoting gun control.
Wouldn’t it b a first class hoot if Hunter gets off because GCA68 doesn’t pass Bruen?
Good thing he wasn’t caught in possession of a cannon.
I get what you’re saying. And as a Constitutionalist I agree.
What I’m TIRED of is their side goes extreme on everything, and then when they finally get caught in the web of their own BS, they cry ‘can’t we all just come together? – why are you trying to divide this country?’
Sick of it. Reap what you sow
OK, the operative concept here is ‘adjudicated.’ If you are a casual drug user and fill out the Form 4473 you are under no obligation to self-incriminate. But Hunter is a different story. Hunter was administratively discharged from the Navy because he was determined to be a fraudulent enlistment (commissioning) due to preservice drug addiction. That is your adjudication of the facts of the matter. A flag officer had to sign off on that discharge and that discharge suffices as adjudication. That is the difference. The idea that casual users of pot have to declare themselves to be ‘drug abusers’… Read more »
Good point!
I agree that the form and its battery of questions is illegal, but I guarandamntee you the libs would not agree about the persecution of DJT as also being illegal. However, in spite of my severe disgust and aversion to anything related to biden or his family, the case should prove once and for all time that this is an illegal form and requirement to fill it out and submit to the crown and colony is just as wrong now as it was in 1791 and is used solely to punish gun owners, period!
Unconstitutional is unconstitutional
Sorry John, but these are the same people that want US disarmed, completely disarmed. Where’s all the noise from Blumberg, The Brady Bunch, or Giffords, about passing universal background checks, etc., etc.
Total silence! Why? Because the rules are for you and me, but not THEM.
If Hunter wasn’t a Biden, I would agree but the hypocrisy of the Left, as well as the Biden’s has no bounds.
If Hunter’s last name was Trump, they’d be building gallows to hang him from.
I wonder about what will happen to Deja Nicole Taylor who was recently convicted of the same offense in Virginia? Her sentencing is scheduled for October 18th. What about the multitude of others jailed, have been jailed or like Ms. Taylor waiting to be jailed? Will they immediately be released and have their “felony” convictions expunged? To me, the only right answer should the privileged one win this case is yes, all the others must be released and their convictions overturned. Oh, the wicked irony the case presents, the only sad part is the privileged one’s father has no idea… Read more »
The bastard’s life’s work has been the ruination of the United States as a Republic and a world power. Doubtful this case will undo THAT …
wasn’t there a recent case that addressed this?
if it had to happen to someone, this would be my choice. for once the progs getting a taste of their own bitter medicine.
The case is NOT about whether you can use drugs and own a gun. It’s about lying to the government, in this case on a written form. If the judge wants to declare unconstitutional any of a) laws against lying to the government, b) the gun control act of 1968, c) having to fill out a form to buy a gun or even just d) question 21.f of Form 4473, then fine. Hunter is acquitted and a lot of people get out of jail. Otherwise, NO. Give him an orange jumpsuit, pink underwear and a bar of soap. And remember,… Read more »
That would be hilarious, Oldvet!
He should be convicted so he can win on appeal and make get rid of the law for everyone instead of letting them get away with “as applied” BS and forcing someone who isn’t a terrible person and foreign agent to risk their fortune and freedom attacking the law.
We’ve seen what happens when the democrats lose a case,even as high as in the supreme court. They examine and conspire “where did we go wrong?” They (democrats) then write a new law stronger and without exceptions hoping to achieve their utopian conclusions. Anti-gunners won’t quit until they make all firearms illegal and have a bulletproof (excuse me) way to collect, confiscate and eliminate them. Never believe lawyers and politicians.
so how about the semi-auto pistol he had in the photos with the hookers from the laptop?!?!? Hmmmm….
That don’t count, no govermnent paperwork.
You know it is…..and if that don’t work Joe will pardon him, in case Trump wins. If Trump wins you know whom will be charged with sedition! The whole executive branch! And even though Joe deserves the gallows he will be allowed to spend his last days under house arrest in the smallest of his houses left after WE The People get done with that lyin’, cheatin’ , SumBitch!
I like your thoughts.
Ain’t nuthin gonna happen to the Biden boy, he’s protectin Big Daddy and Big Daddy coverin for him.. The trial results are already a given, just like the Trump Trial results were known before the trial began..
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows…”
Agreed!
The Biden Regime has suspended the bill of rights many times. (ATF rules on ghost guns, receivers, rules on sales etc.) They have ignored the law. As I see it, they now are making the rules. We are no longer a nation of laws. Therefore Hunter should feel the full weight of the anti-gun Biden rules and be convicted and incarcerated.
while i would love to see him convicted of something i agree the form 4473 is unconstitutional. however there is a golden opportunity here also. his lawyers are asserting a 2nd amendment defense and while i find it amusing that the son of the most anti gun politician in memory is using it, think about this, if the trial court or the jury go along with it that will add a lot of ammunition to any future litigation arising from various state and local bans across the country. however i also think something will be worked out before it goes… Read more »
Biden gets off and the rest of us still have to play these games, that’s when SHTF. The NICS is unconstitutional and always have been.
after 2012 i can NOT buy a gun from a FFL because of an ARGUMENT with my wife in 1997 because of the stupid, unconstitutional lautenberg amendment.
Wow, that is like being hungry all the time.
I’m not in total agreement with people who see the world in black and white. It isn’t realistic to deny the infinite shades of gray that make up reality. We all know that when profiling drug addicts, many of them turn to criminality to feed their habit. A drug addict with a firearm, is very likely to use his/her gun to commit a crime? Most jurisdictions do not permit carrying a firearm where alcohol is being served. How do you propose disallowing someone from carrying a weapon where illicit drugs are being used? Don’t we have enough problems already? Can’t… Read more »
That is a problem for you to solve, not at others cost.
HLB
He committed no felony murder or mayhem with the gun, so it is another imbecilic law to be arrested for a felony because he lied on an application. All of the politicians should be in prison for life for all the lies they tell. Such a waste of taxpayer money. How about arresting the J6 committee for preventing the Secret Service limo driver from telling the truth. That lie resulting in many of the J6 patriots serving many years in prison for nothing
See my longer post. It appears you’re correct but the only thing that could really screw him is if he did any drug >dealing<, according to a recent US Supreme Court decision. I have no idea if he turned to dealing or not but if he did, that's apparently equivalent to a violent crime because of the extreme risk of violence in that profession.
If I was the prosecutor I would be trying to find evidence that he turned to dealing at any point.
With due respect, I think we may be forgetting who we’re dealing with. We can’t depend on the current party in power, a government run by unelected bureaucrats, and a “leader” who is a well documented liar to pivot on the premier issue of gun control/anti 2A due to an acquittal. We can’t be bamboozled by the dangling of a win for the 2A and RKBA that they would never follow through on.
Even if the gun laws are found Unconstitutional to get the royal son off, it’s only a matter of time before his Daddy reinstates them my executive order.
Put the SOB in prison where he belongs. The law is the law, whether we agree with it or not, and Hunter Biden broke what is currently the law.
If that POS does get off with a light sentence or no sentence (which most likely will happen), then this should start a push to start lifting all gun laws and the amount of “punishment” is pushed on us peons
Yes, he, and his whole family going back to at least WW1, is a POS, but if his case destroys the GCA of 1968, then his getting off is a small price to pay.
“If we only apply human rights to those we agree with, then those rights will hold no real power. We must not be hypocritical.”
Should read:
If we only apply human rights to those we agree with, then we would be commie democrats.
There, fixed it for you.:-)
All jokes aside, I fully agree with you sir.
If they drag the case out long enough the Rahimi decision will hit and probably make the whole thing moot. NOT kidding here. It’s actually a bizarre situation..
Please explain.
The Rahimi case is before the US Supreme Court right now. Oral arguments were late last year and we are expecting the written decision within the next month. It’s all about the standards under which somebody can be disarmed for their misconduct. If it’s written very narrowly it will only impact some domestic violence restraining order cases where there wasn’t enough due process involved. But there’s a lot of clues saying that they’re going to go for a broader approach and lay out the circumstances under which a state (or the feds for that matter)can disarm somebody for their misconduct.… Read more »
Excellent briefing. Thank you.
Wait, you’ve been eating WORMS?!
My friend has merely mispelled bated. Please see below:
with bated breath in great suspense; very anxiously or excitedly: he waited for a reply to his offer with bated breath.
Baited breath isn’t necessarily worm tainted exhalations. It could be anchovy scented. Or even smell like cheese balls. Bated is the correct answer.
I don’t recall ever seeing it spelled that way, be careful or we learn something! Thanks, another reason to read Ammoland. Hahaha.
Everybody makes that spelling mistake. Even my wife!
So, we had a laugh on you, not at you,laugh with us.
I don’t know about that!! I consider worms fish bait. So, if he ate a worm he could have baited breath, LOL!!!!!!
I haven’t thought of the worm song in quite awhile…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrFViBSYPtQ
I liked it.
Gross!!!! But I did eat a night crawler on a bet one time. Easiest 100 bucks I ever made and yes, I had to chew it and prove that I did.
When I was a kid I remember my dad singing it though can’t remember what type of occasion prompted it. I always assumed eating worms was part of marine basic training. I’ve eaten insects, (and horse – it was delicious) and disected worms but never ate one. I’m sure 100 bucks was not only worth a lot more when you ate the worm but a young person had much greater utility for the dollar to use an econ term. Good job with the bet.
Yes, at the time, gas was almost a buck a gallon.
He could have been eating Sushi!
Can it be illegal to lie on a form if the form itself isn’t constitutional? SCOTUS and the various lower federal courts have given us many other Catch 22 situations like that. It is illegal to ‘resist arrest’ even if the arrest itself is illegal.
Whether Biden wins or loses, the law won’t change until its unconstitutionality is established. That will require this case to reach the Supreme Court before that decision will finalized. I’d just as well like to see him convicted and sit in prison until that time.
Pot is clearly NOT “schedule ine” substance, so should no be listed. as such. Government have NO place to be holding MY rught to arms hostage to wheher I use/do no us certain chemicals. Now possession of a firearm WHILE incapacitated by any substance SHOULD be illegal. Can’t carry our gun when you are drunk. Fair. But this stupid law is the same as saying if I have any hootch in my house, and ever take a sip, I am debarred the use of arms//// NO WAY. Of course, Hunter should be in prisin, but for other things, not this.… Read more »
It is up to us, the people, to set the law.
It is up to us, the people, to exercise our rights.
It is not up to them.
HLB
Where is a victim? No victim, no crime. No crime…NOT GUILTY your DISHONOR.
Others have been convicted and jailed for the same thing. He is no different. If you want to free one, free them all.
I agree that we should fight all these unconstitutional laws regarding gun ownership 100%. BUT. Since the law is on the books, I think it’s only fair that Hunter be tried and convicted under the same BS laws that Democrats have foisted upon us over the years. Anything less than a conviction is what we absolutely need, because you know it will be appealed, and if the courts follow Bruen, it will be overturned, even if it has to go to the Supreme Court.And you KNOW that since it’s Hunter Biden, the case would not get slow walked through the… Read more »
It matters not one iota if the law against junkies being armed is Constitutional or not. What matters is that Hunter LIED on a Federal form. THAT is a felony and THAT is what should send him to prison: “I certify that my answers in Section B are true, correct, and complete. I have read and understand the Notices, Instructions, and Definitions on ATF Form 4473. I understand that answering “yes” to question 21.a. if I am not the actual transferee/buyer is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law. I… Read more »
I agree with you except for one thing. It is the law, even it we believe in is unconstitutional. Until it is pronounced “Unconstitutional” by the courts it is a valid law which we are expected to follow. Until it is deemed Unconstitutional by the courts someone charged with violating the law must face the consequences. I don’t agree with many of the anti-gun laws on the books now, but still must follow the law until they have been classified by the courts as Unconstitutional! This too is Bidens fate. As for this particular law I would also say that… Read more »
The guy is a POS. But either you believe in 2A, or not. Not Guilty…
If Biden goes free and all that are in prison for same offense are released then yeah. But that isn’t going to happen is it. You will still go to jail after Biden is exonerated. Y’all just don’t get it do you.
That’s because his case is (D)ifferent!
Since Obiden is losing more and more of his marbles day after day, the Demonrats want to kick him to the curb ASAP and replace him. So, when the DNC finally tells him that he will have to drop out, he will probably give Hunter a pardon on that same day, thus solving two problems at the same time. Hunter staggers away, and Joe stumbles and mumbles away. The fake trial will be ended, and things will remain as they are, for the time being. The ONLY real solution to any issues with the totally corrupted and criminal legal system/Matrix,… Read more »
On one level I hope you’re correct.
The one thing I fear coming out of it though is the phrase “President Harris”.
She’s potentially a lot more dangerous than Biden. No joke. There’s not a senile bone in her body, but a whole lot of stone cold evil. As a prosecutor she was known for rotten dealings and trying to keep innocent people in prison who had committed no crime at all, simply to avoid having to deal with past police and prosecutor misconduct.
She’s *dangerous* and eager to start a full scale civil war.