He’ll never stop fighting to Save America pic.twitter.com/qT4Vd0sVTm
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) July 13, 2024
During a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, a gunman tried to assassinate President Donald Trump.
During President Trump’s speech at the rally, multiple shots rang out. Fox News is reporting that there are unconfirmed reports the rifle used was an AR-15. The former President and current front-runner grabbed his right ear as United States Secret Service Officers jumped on top of him. The mic picked up a Secret Service agent saying that the former President was hit. Secret Service got Trump to his feet, where a bloodied Trump raised his fist in defiance. Secret Service then evacuated Trump from the scene.
Local police and the Secret Service took out the shooter, who was on top of a building outside the grounds about 200 yards away. The shooter was shot and killed. Another rally attendee was hit by a shot and died. Two other people at the rally were taken away by stretcher, but it is still unclear if any of the expended rounds struck them.
Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger was amazed that the shooter got to the location he did. He stated that they are going to have to review exactly how the security lapse happened.
“[The shooter] was outside of the grounds, so to speak,” Mr. Goldinger said. “Quite frankly, I don’t know how he would have gotten to the location where he was outside the grounds. I think that’s something that we’re going to have to figure out.”
Trump, shortly after, released a statement stating that he was fine. A doctor reviewed the footage for AmmoLand News and said it looked like the President was hit in the Helix of the right ear. Law enforcement locked down the area and searched for any other shooter, but none were found. A source on the ground reported that the shooter appeared to be a white male. Police have not released the shooter’s identity at the time of writing.
No motive has been released, but the left has ratcheted up its rhetoric against Trump since he started to pull away from President Joe Biden in the polls after signs of mental decline from the current White House officeholder. One recent post by the Biden campaign said the time for debate is over. It is time to put a “bullseye” on Trump.
Others have called Trump a fascist and pushed a narrative that he is a danger to democracy. The New Republic put Trump on its cover with a Hitler mustache photoshopped on the former President. Many wonder if the coverage of Trump has driven unstable individuals to violence.
Even though the Biden campaign has been the source of a lot of anti-Trump rhetoric, the White House released a statement that sent thoughts and prayers to the former President.
“I have been briefed on the shooting at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania,” Biden said. “I’m grateful to hear that he’s safe and doing well. I’m praying for him and his family and for all those who were at the rally, as we await further information.”
“Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety,” Biden continued. “There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it.”
President Trump would take to Truth Social late Saturday to thank the Secret Service and local law enforcement for their quick action. He stated that nothing is known about the shooter at this time.
“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
This situation is a breaking story, and AmmoLand News will continue to follow it for the latest updates.
About John Crump
John is an NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. Mr. Crump lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.
Where were the drones? You know, the ones they should have been using to patrol the event?
HLB
They were “protecting” Trump. Oh, wait. You meant aerial drones. Good question.
come on guys. the s.s. and fbi don’t already knows who this guy was and already has been to his home and searched it? the 9/11 terrorist, the boston bombers, etc, they just don’t want that information out there for trump to use against the progs.
spoiler alert, he was probably on their radar.
this should seal trumps win in november.
progs resort to violence to solve problems, history will show that.
Of course he was “on their radar” – he was one of their operatives.
The CIA must be so disappointed.. their weaponized branch failed the task of a new world order… Not today boys… We shoot back.
I was wondering if anybody would say any shit about the shit. Thanks for being the first. I was taking a knap and woke up to the news. Notice how now ObiDUMB is pulling his adds talking about how Trump is a racist Nazi and other stuff. They said before that it would not instigate anyone to do anything harmful so why are they pulling it down. BECAUSE THEY LIED. Watched a video today that was done in the 50’s about communism. If you saw it, you would realize that today, the demonrat party is really the Marxist party. It… Read more »
US is just shy of what is done in Russia and China. When the political opponent gets too strong they lights-out that person. In US the way it’s done is lawfare and fraud voting.
“Police” snipers? As in PA State Police?
Was this a set up? I question why when I am seeing and reading that a person that was being watched by secret service in the crowd was looking at him and he was pointing to the guy climbing the ladder with a rifle to get on the roof and they didn’t respond to his action. WHY? I can only assume that they were to wait until he killed Trump and then take him out. Our government lies to us on a daily basis while brainwashing the masses just like the Las Vegas operation and the killing of JFK. ObiDUMB… Read more »
That is appearing more plausible
OV
A check for off shore bank accounts needs to be done. Maybe they convinced him he would get 72 virgins?
No doubt, the CIA is infiltrated everything, everywhere. You have to have a good moral sense in order to know how to conduct your life. What do you want to bet he didn’t go to church or wasn’t a Christian because if he was, he wouldn’t have tired to kill the one presidential candidate that would represent him.
God bless America and God bless Donald Trump and JD Vance.
I just saw her and that she has brown skin tone so I looked her up. She is Hindu and she also worked for Justice Kavanaugh and Roberts. A well educated lady.
I understand that JD is from a fly over home and that he had virtually nothing as a child and is an example of what can be done in the USA if you have the desire and drive to get somewhere in this country.
I read that. Did you know JD’s dad was gone and his mom was an acholic and he was raised by his Grandma? Oh, and to me he is a Marine that enlisted right after 911 so he is a good choice. The first Marine to ever be VP when Trump wins.
better 8 years as president would not hurt
I think that he is a lawyer, too!
And a Vet.
That in itself is not necessarily a good thing. So was Dan Crenshaw
That may be true, but Vets work more for this country than the average. We are also considered potential terrorists.
Wow, an epiphany!
he must have listened to the bs about trump, then found for himself it is all lies
So true!
Ope must have his hands tied behind his back. I know he would have something to share about this.
Don’t know if this will open………..but if it does?
HOw about this?
https://youtu.be/hjmLqoGRqNo?si=384YPcjBBX-YpLj7
First pic shows the shooter.
My wife found the link on Facebook. I have a problem making the link go to my computer. Old and senile I guess.
If I hit the link on ammoland from my computer it shows a commercial from blackrock that has two pics of Thomas Crook on it.
good
I think this is starting to make some sense to me.
Blackrock is the largest investment firm in the world, followed by Vanguard, and then State Street.
Yep, showed a picture of him in school. Amazing how things just disappear huh, but we are not being manipulated and media is still free to post what it wants, right!!!!
Those politicians and people who have been calling for things like this, Maxine Waters, Swallwell, Biden and many others, the Communist News Network —CNN— Main Stream News Block for Communism — MSNBC and others should be held to account for their rhetoric and hate speech — at least. There is good reason to suspect everyone who has been linked to deep state type activities. The F.B.I. and C.I.A. are known to have lied, and worse, to keep Trump off the ticket, to get him jailed and to get him impeached SEVERAL TIMES. The guy got within 150 yds. of Trump,… Read more »
Somebody should compound a list of the devilish names that media liberals have been calling this guy for the last 8 years. And leftists are the only ones who want their political adversary’s dead! Nobody else does that! And what else? Now these leftists “appeal for calm”.
i don’t think that could be accomplished there are too many.
only progs want their opponent dead, we are not afraid of a good debate to expel the differences between the two parties.
Unfortunate people from both sides preach their violent rhetoric and aren’t being held accountable for their inflammatory comments. Them they’re surprised when violence happens.
Held accountable for speach!! What, exactally, are you talking about?
Speech like this guy spews out.
Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at NC church meeting: “Some folks need killing”
Who would hold them “accountable”? What form would the accounting take?
Exactly!
god is the only one
Roger that.
‘Grassy Knoll’ nuff said.
Democrats of course.
Speak for yourself when you say ” some folks need killing ” . You are evil promoting the killing of another human being . Put the target on your own back braindead idiot .
Much as I disagree with @ Get Out – he was not promoting “some folks need killing” but stating that Robinson said it.
I agree that such statements generally mark the speaker as evil. Because of that, I support those informing us to know who among us is evil.
The early footage I saw also pictured a lot of attendees flipping off the press box, shouting F…Y…, and that this was their fault.
And the gal in front of him who was even more riled up. Was the early footage of Trump getting hit from a different angle? I swear there was a woman in green right behind him that dropped the moment he winced. Except the angle wasn’t right for it to be the ear shot so that mystifies me. Speaking of which, have you heard the media talk about the NYT photographer who got ” a picture of the bullet” right after it hit trump? It was not the bullet of course but the vortex created by the bullet and the… Read more »
professional photographers using ultra high speed film.
I’ve seen fantastic photos of bullets in motion. The clearest were taken in the dark, using a strobe to illuminate the bullet momentarily. Allows for much faster effective shutter speed.
Shutter speed was 1/8,000, not 1/80k. The gray streak is, I believe, the vortex, not the bullet. I say that because the edge of the line is soft and wider than a 5.56. Also, if the shooter was firing 55 gr., velocity at that point would be about 2,750 fps. At 1/8k sec the bullet would travel just over 4 inches, not over a foot. It’s not my field of expertise so I’m open to being wrong. The photo has him standing and apparently before he turned and raised his hand to his ear so I think it’s a good… Read more »
I think they were flipping off the shooter. Just a guess though.
Trump is the Goat!
A true American Bad Ass
Hopefully this just sealed the winning election for him.
What @Oldvet said.
It’s hard to find any footage of that now.
It’s been scrubbed as far as I can tell.
There was a guy that told them he seen a guy with a rifle over there and no one checked it out.
Biden is a “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,”- remember?
@getout ALL political violence comes from the left; fact.
I heard a little bit ago that Trump case has been dismissed.
Supposedly people pointed out the shooter and his location 3-5 minutes before he shot to LE.
Maybe because it was a setup like Las Vegas and JFK. It went down just like it was supposed to except the shooter couldn’t get the job done before the secret service shot him. They waited for him to get 8 shots off before they took him out. Why?
you left out bobby, the family has all seven rounds from the gun sirhan sirhan used body was not desecrated…it does mean a second gun robert jr stated this as a fact he would know
Ever shoot an AR? Eight shots takes but an instance if one is indiscriminate. Counter snipers had to find and identify target before shooting.
What do I know… I suck with a rifle. At 100 yards I struggle to make one shot every 2-3 seconds and still struggle to hit 10” target more than half the time. Old eyes and poor stability (physical, not mental) slow me way down. Presumably SS snipers are far younger, fitter and more practiced as well as having better eyesight and spotters.
LOL, I found that moving to a scope that has a 55mm lens and 24 power makes a big difference. over a 3×9.
a better scope makes all the difference and ffp (first focal plane) helps in live action shooting. most people cant justify 3k or more for a scope
Neither can I that is why I own a Millet LRS. Would love a Night Force but before I spend money on that I will buy FLIR.
I have two long range phones so calling a mile or more the glass has to be great
that said would never hunt at those distances, irresponsible in so many ways so a lot for a skill with few uses
Not all scopes or shooting is for hunting, swmft.. many of us target shoot. And wat is “irresponsible” about long-distance shot at game? If you have the gear and skill- out west here a lot of shots are taken at long range because there is a lot of space between the game and the hunter. Wide-open country, ya know?
Long range is a matter of definition. I shoot so badly that for me 100 yards is “long range.” From what @swmft said – for him long range extends beyond a mile.
Bullet energy drops considerably at such ranges. I’m not sure how much energy even 300 WinMag carries at that range. Certainly 308 and (likely) 6.5 Creedmore are below threshold for elk or even deer at a mile. As I’ve read 308 energy drops off to point 6.5 Grendel from an AR15 is more powerful beyond 400-600 yards.
50 bmg still has plenty
bear gets there first or a cat,wolves . have hunted in the west still 1 mile + 800 yards yes shooting across a valley mountain to mountain go recover that mountain goat
I have a really cool tool where you put the camera on the target and then go one mile from the target and it receives the signal and transmits it to your phone.
Here, though, we are talking 0nly 130 yards. Pretty short distance, yet somehow too far for the police and Secret Service to monitor as a basic security measure. How fortunate that the shooter couldn’t quite manage that range, although this was way too close.
a distance a pistol hunter could make with a 454 casull
It wasn’t really that the shooter couldn’t manage the range, the shooter tried for a head shot (either wanting to be cool or figuring that Trump would be wearing a vest). The problem with head shots is that people move their heads quickly and frequently. If Trump had not turned his head just at the moment the shooter fired that round would have taken the back of his skull off and Trump would have been D.R.T. The real problem here is how the shooter was able to get into position, aim, and fire at all. There are unconfirmed reports that… Read more »
Well that is certainly true. Still, a 3×9 at less than 150 meters is dead-on if properly sighted-in. Their was a 20mph wind according to some reports, and the President moved his head.. either or both likely made all the difference. May God bless and keep you safe, President Trump.
Well, it seems rather obvious that this idiot wouldn’t know how to compensate, thank God.
shooter must not hail from Kentucky
You got that right. When I was in the USMC those Kentucky and Tennessee boys already knew how to shoot. They just needed to be familiarized with the M-16.
I couldn’t hit anything with first red dot – color distortion was just enough that I couldn’t identify the target. Went to vortex LPVO and even on 1x I can clearly see. Typically I shoot with 2-3 power – higher than that and my wobble might take target out of visual range. Last time I shot at 100 yards was with partial support – yet my target was traveling on pattern like the infinity sign (sideways 8) with almost three feet between furthest points. Slow breathing, slow heart, squeeze trigger a little bit further each time I’m on target, then… Read more »
Good training is where you start, after that practice helps make perfect or keep you in shape. I like to go once a week but when demoncrats came into power I started holding back on burning up ammo but now, especially now, I feel the practice maybe more important than any time in my lifetime.
Vortex makes good products.
sounds like Parkinson’s, man that is tuff god be with you
A lot depends upon your rifle and your familiarity (practice) with it.
I just heard from a friend that via a news agency from Australia they showed where Trump got shot in the chest. He sent it to a friend and the friend said he didn’t see anything so he watched it again and they had removed that section.
JD Vance is the vice pick.
How is Vance going to help the ticket with minorities, independents, and other slightly liberals?
I don’t know the answer to that question but President Trump made his choice for a reason and I am not going to question it. He needs someone we can count on and he is obviously and MAGA man, not a Pence.
Trump 2024
I thought that Vance was a never trumper.
Nope, he is a major MAGA all the way. The North Dakota guy was marginal and I feel he is a RINO and I am so glad Trump didn’t pick him.
he changed his mind after Trump helped him get elected Senator
He changed his mind after Trump was elected.
Right, Bob
so nice cool day, did you need a sweater?
I think I will work till I drop ,must have been too close to coca too long to bed at midnight up at 0430
I know how that can hurt broke c2,c4,c5,c6
doctor asked why I was alive 2 years before I could learn to walk
horses or motorcycles?
still have horses ,dont ride any more got thrown and had to walk miles home have the limp to remind me do not feal the pain, that could be bad in the long run but as long as I can keep going god willing I will gave up motorcycles when a drunk cop going the wrong way on a one way hit me
Both of his wife’s parents are eastern Indian. They’re a pretty large minority today. That might have a little pull.
Honestly OV,
IMO, If that is what the FBI is telling us, like I said before, I wouldn’t believe any of it. This is, again, another example of JFK, RFK, Reagan and now Trump. Remember Las Vegas? The FBI and the CIA blamed everything on the Las Vegas Sheriff, as to being responsible for the Massacree investigation and everyone in the DOJ was pointing at each other. I have lost all trust and respect for Biden’s DOJ, and for GOOD reason.
I am glad you pointed out Las Vegas. I thought the same thing. Another opp setup. All the inept cops are to convenient for my taste.
So, in further thought, how are we supposed to know what the FBI has done in all this? Did they plant the stuff in his van, his house, was he just a patsy, and the whole thing was set up so he was supposed to die after trying a shot on Trump. They killed OSwald. Dead people don’t talk. Remember Paddock? Did they even find powder residue on his hands? Had he even fired a weapon that day? What about all the videos from the event? What about the black helicopters? what about their mini guns? What about the expended… Read more »
m 14 and m16 ar 10 ar 15 mac 10 I worked for drug enforcement in the bad old days
Exactly. LE/SS knew exactly where this person was and what they were doing. There is absolutely NO WAY they didn’t know, given the tools at their disposal and even reports from witnesses. They purposely waited to remove the threat until AFTER rounds were sent downrange. The fact that an AR-pattern .223/5.56 was used speaks volumes. They weren’t expecting a near miss. It is impossible to believe this wasn’t planned. Thankfully it was poorly executed.
I fully agree. I think the left should back off on supposedly how dangerous AR’s are now because they can’t hit shit. sarcasm
Well, the snipers that took the punk out were local police, not SS.
and why didn’t he have the same protection as ObiDUMB would have? Local Barney Fife group protecting him.. That’s BS.
Even the president is mostly protected by the “local barney fife group.” SS make up the inner circle and coordinate, but locals direct traffic and manage outside the inner “sanitized” zone.
Missing this shooters perch was unforgivable – I predict some of the SS people will be shuffled off to treasury. Despite locals missing the potential risk – SS should have directed locals to have officers on those buildings ahead of time.
From what I heard tonight, the ranks were thinned because Bidumb was in the area and needed moreSS. Camel toe was also in the area somewhat and also needed more security so more people were pulled. What a clown show!!!
Thanks for that update. I still smell fish!!!!
Its disgusting.
Where is Ope. I am sure he would have something to say?
I follow Ope. His being absent here has me concerned. The only thing I can do is pray. Been doin’ a lot of that lately, which is GOOD.
I know, you OV and Ope are a team always discussing stuff on here and sometimes I slip in here and there. That is why I asked.
MM44, Whether you like it or not, you sir, are, along with WB, part of this slam dunk team. I just wish we had the power of action, not just the power of free speech.
Why thank you. I know sometimes I am controversial but I am learning. I have been for free medicine for all because I believe we are a rich country, can afford it and that we all deserve the same. Yesterday I watched a video and that part of my thought has changed for one reason. It is because it gives the government more control over me and it is all part of the demorat Marxist move through what the sell as socialism, but it still seems unfair that some cannot have medical care because they cannot find a job that… Read more »
I see what you do but I will not take va or ss I want NOTHING from the goobers,what I paid in was stolen and NOONE went to jail, my current doctor I see twice a year is in Thailand us trained served in us military ( we paid for his md) takes care of expats
Well I am glad you have the care from who you want but most of all that you have some kind of care.
after seeing what the government was from inside want nothing to do with them so my choices are driven by conviction
I dealt with state government and I agree. SOS.
He must be gettin kinda OLD by now…
If one industry is changed to generate both research and production under a profit-free or government supported process, what motivates real effort in that field either for genuine research or production? And what keeps that cancer from overflowing into an overall communist system for all industries?
Man, I guess more prayers are needed.
Thanks. I almost think that he uses a desk computer and not a laptop.
visiting pa…. I know poor taste joke …hope he has a grill and plenty of gas they may not have power till the 20th
Unknown, were they focused on the crowd inside and not looking out towards the perimeter. Outer security ring should have included that building too.
people dont read the whole post, you point them back and with luck they follow more closely
Darn right they should have! There should have been an agent ON THAT ROOF-TOP given the proximity to the podium. That shot was a walk in the park and only because of wind drift and Trump turning his head- by the Grace of God- was the murder attempt unsuccessful. This whole thing stinks.
Well, I’m sure you know WHY nothing was done.. Trump wasn’t supposed to walk out of that rally. Too bad the guy is no longer around to answer any of our questions… kinda like Oswald didn’t talk.
IMOA, any and all violence should be denounced by Biden, Trump and all politicians. They should keep their traps shut if they don’t know the details of the situation. Buffoons blamed Biden and democrats for the shooting from the start. Oops, the guy was a registered republican.
This guy should be held accountable for his violent rhetoric.
Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at NC church meeting: “Some folks need killing”
Trump hadn’t even moved off of the stage and the buffoons began their baseless accusations.
“Joe Biden sent the orders,” Rep. Mike Collins (R-Ga.) wrote on X, formerly Twitter, minutes after the shooting. There is, of course, zero evidence to support this accusation.
Exactly my point, both sides should keep their stupid mouths shut until they find out the facts. Instead, they go off halfcocked and spew their inflammatory rhetoric.
Yeah, I can’t see someone saying shoot at me on stage, but only nick my ear.
Let’s not forget, one dead and two critically injured.
Your point, GET Out? Maybe you are involved in this, somehow. You are the one who hates Trump………You are the one who thinks they will find out all the facts. We have alphabet agencies everywhere, in everybody’s business. And of course, they, being the authorities, automatically put the FBI in charge of the investigation. As soon as I heard that, I knew the real thing will never be known. Just another case of Las Vegas, again. If you kill Trump, onstage with an AR, you have just started another round of crooked Joe’s antics about how guns kill people. Plus… Read more »
Oldman … EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!
Read my comment above to Oldman.
can we each give him 50 thumbs up ?
When it happened I was in Eugene Orgonesitan at a medical facility. The people were pissed that the shooter missed.
F UofO and Eugene and Portland.
Trump 2024
Sheesh, I’m involved too, wow the conspiracy has no end? Dude, you are seriously delusional, go check your BP before you blow a gasket.
IMOA, violent rhetoric has no place anywhere, especially after a situation like this. Both sides started their conspiracy theories without proper facts to go on.
No, I’m going to let you do the honors. I’d like to see those too.
Lazy scholarship. Shallow intellect.
They just announced JD Vance as Vp
No matter how good Mr Vance’s credentials, the minorities are not going to like two white guys on the ticket. The democraps are going to make a lot of hay with this.
What a BS response. Can’t you do better than that? Oh shame on me, logic eludes you just like all demonrats.
Trump 2024 fight, fight, fight, fight will be the new cheer and then you will hear USA, USA,USA, USA. I am sure it will sicken you.
Trump
Hey! Get OUT! Have you not figured it out yet! You have nothing intelectual, in any way, to spout out here on this site. You are nothing but a troll, and not even a semi-good one. Now fck of# and take a powder. Go see if your ex-boyfriend will take you back, and maybe, just maybe, he will give you the respect you desire and will never get here.
Take a chill dude.
How cliche.
The left immediately said that Trump set this up so he could get the war started because MAGA republicans are a threat to their democracy. So, there is bullshit on both sides, our job is to be smart enough to know what is and isn’t and not let it effect you. That is what the masters are always doing, brainwashing the sheeple and lying to us slaves on their plantation. Maybe it would help you if you watched this video and educate yourself about the demonrats and the Marxism they have been bringing to America for years. https://youtu.be/i4vTHwvioZ4?si=iz6ID9N_TdjmqPsU This is… Read more »
Both sides are wrong to utter violent rhetoric, end of story.
You started spewing crap first, end of story!
Sure, have a nice day.
Get out.
How about the leftists that are in the republican party that vote for who they think would lose against their demonrat pick?
If Trump can be accused of starting or setting off an insurrection by saying now go peacefully to the capital and let your voices be heard, then ObiDUMB should be in court for rhetoric that caused one of his sheeple to try and assassinate President Trump because he caused it. Will that happen, hell no, the left wont even protect a supreme court justice if they are republican.
Trump 2024
Yeah, I’ve read the transcripts and timeline leading up to the insurrection trump and others sparked on that day. I also witnessed firsthand a bloody coup in a West African country and saw no difference in the violence, IMOA, we became equal to a third world toilet on Jan. 6, 2020, too.
LOL you keep on talking and trying to convince yourself that the lie you think is true is true because we all know it’s not. An insurrection would have had a group of people armed ready to take over the capital. Think of the Million Man March with guns. That would be an insurrection. What really happened that day was a peaceful protest without the burning and the only killing done that day was by the government on an innocent female slave to the plantation she was objecting too. Nice try but it ain’t working here. You need to revamp… Read more »
insurrectionnounin·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən
Synonyms of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
You need to get off the new revised dictionary that happened after J-6 and go back to the old school dictionary that was printed in the 50’s to get the truth. For instance. Red Neck. Back in the fifty’s was a mexican that came across the river that worked in the fields with their head down all the time and that is why they had a Red Neck and were called Red Necks. Today our of your wikipedia: Redneck is a derogatory term mainly, but not exclusively, applied to white Americans perceived to be crass and unsophisticated, closely associated with rural whites of… Read more »
Interesting, I saw a documentary on a mining community located in logan county West Virginia, Battle of Blair Mountain 1921. Miners wore red bandanas on their neck to ID themselves.
The bandanas were red, not their necks. I believe I watched a movie on that subject years ago and seem to remember it but I don’t recall them being referred to as rednecks but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were. My quote was Meriam Webster. In 1992 there was a college dictionary that said a red neck was white racist that hated black people. I almost lost my job over it because I was talking with a client that did the Rubicon in his CJ-4 and we were talking camping, hunting and trails etc. while I was waiting on… Read more »
So did my mom and her best friend from Germany married a good man that crossed the border but became an American citizen. In fact, he worked on USAF jets doing maintenance and his son was my God brother.
I have a random house (remember those on the end tables in public libraries) and it agrees with yours , it defines red neck as people that work the land,or outdoors in a blue collar job, interestingly the three four wheel drives that only one runs at a time would make you a West Virginian
LOL, wife drove one too to work so that means only one sat there. It was usually the truck that was used for hauling the camper and the horse trailer and horses or race car.
they crossed the rio grande we are green gos green for the color of our money go as in go home leave mexico or whatever s it hole they are from
we should make them pay for their own deportation
HAHAHA!!! But, how? They mostly have no money.
“Gringo”? From the song “Green grow the rushes-O sung by Irish Catholic volunteers fighting for the Mexican Government during the Mexican-American War. This I was told by a Mexican Professor of history many years ago.
Whew, what a buncha bigots you work with!
Actually tho I have been given to understand that the term related to the red bandanas worn by British convicts sent to Georgia pre-War For Independence.
Thanks for sharing. It is so cool when others contribute and expand the knowledge of others on Ammoland.
I have learned a lot on here and I hope others do to. Take care.
I am retired from that demonrat dump now but it still effects me how they were and how they treated me ESPECIALLY after I was asked if I was a republican and I said YES!!!!! I had no idea how things were until after that.
The terms “red neck” & “hillbilly” come from the same time period and location. ENGLAND & SCOTLAND. First- Hillbilly: People who supported King William were called “Billy Boys”, if they were a Scotsman (you know from the hills) thet would be called “Hill Billy Boys”. Second- Redneck: The Scots-Irish Protestants identified each other by a red scarf worn around their necks. Catholics who saw them would refer to them as “Rednecks” When these same people immigrated to America especially in the Appalachian areas, those “slurs” remained and were then propagated by others. In NO way are these terms racist against… Read more »
Thanks for sharing, 🙂
?? What are you referring to?
I hope that you are not making a vague reference to Amendment 14, section 3 because the meaning for that purpose is more narrow than general usage. Didn’t you know?
Are you still using that internet, descriptive dictionary so that you won’t have to do any typing?
Perhaps you could clarify Amendment 14, section 3 for us or which dictionary you reference for definitions? Appears I should toss out my Merriam-Webster, Oxford etc. dictionaries since they aren’t reliable anymore.
Constitutional Interpretation-Cases,Essayw, and Materials Third Edition by Ducat and Chase.
Merriam-Webster … yes, toss it. Oxford Dictionary of the American Language is a proscriptive dictionary detailing proper usage. So don’t toss that one.
Meh, still works for me.
Cool fact: Webster dictionary was started in 1806 finished in 1825, in1845 after Websters death Merriam bought publishing rights and it continued from there to what it is today.
Oxford dictionary began in 1857 and work first began on the dictionary, though the first edition was not published until 1884.
1933, the title The Oxford English Dictionary fully replaced the former name
It “works” for you because you have very low scholarly standards.
One problem- no one was revolting. President Trump’s offer to send the National Guard was REFUSED. It was of course much more peaceful than the “Mostly Peaceful Protests” led by violent leftists earlier in the year.
Not true and debunked.
Haven’t you left yet?………….If you had any brains, you woulda realized by now that no one likes an immature, inept troll. Anything you have to say now that would be of any importance to anyone will be ignored just because of who you are. Get out, change your handle and try again…maybe you will see the light……maybe.
Appears you need another BP check.
There is nothing you can do or say that would raise my blood pressure one iota. Look up ‘Iota’ Dumbkoff, if you can.
Why bother?
Nope, why bother looking at another site where hateful people are going to spew hate, so do whatever you people want to hate about. I had an unhinged delusional person accuse me of being part of the assassination attempt, what deranged whack even thinks of that BS.
No, I saw videos of both. You fool no one.
Just how did they debunk the burning cars, trashed businesses, etc ?
Post your proof, we’d all like to see it too.
Who is ‘we all’? You seem to be on your own here libtard.
nope
Nope, BLM, Antifa and those others are considered civil unrest, and they should have been charged and prosecuted for their crimes. Look it up.
BTW, none of those rioters attacked Capital police and beat them with weapons they brought, attack, breach and cause damage to the US Capitol nor attempted to stop the lawful transfer of power based on a lie, trump lost. Insurrectionist republicans did! look it up.
The LIE ? Election rigging ? Oh it’s there. It will never be proven thanks to NATIONAL SECURITY. All the while terrorist walk across the borders unchecked.
Apparently one can only post one pic at a time on here now.
Do you think they will just let anyone look at their servers ?
You’re given the illusion there are different companies involved in your voting process. How Canada-Based Dominion Voting Systems and U.S.-Based ES&S Cornered the U.S. Voting Machine Market As the visibility of the “glitches” found in Dominion Voting Systems continues to spread across multiple states, and the longstanding issues surrounding Election Systems & Software start to re-surface, one critical question has yet to be asked, “How did they manage to corner the U.S. election voter market in the first place?” On September 14, 2009, Hart Interactive, Inc. filed a lawsuit against Diebold Incorporated and Election Systems & Software, Inc. (ES&S) alleging… Read more »
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but Dominion voting systems and other companies have sued for defamation of their voting machine systems. Let’s see, Fox news, Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and others.
Why is it, no one thought to come forward and provide their proof of election rigging? Wouldn’t you think trump and his co-conspirators who claimed fraud would jump at the chance to present their evidence of election fraud? One has to wonder why they didn’t come forward and defend these people? My theory is they can’t bring any evidence when you don’t have any.
Did you miss the part where I showed you in black and white where it falls under NATIONAL SECURITY ? Do you really believe they will let just anyone look at the source codes, etc. That’s why they can make the number whatever they want. As long as they got the ballots to match their imaginary numbers. Hell a person doesn’t need to be to bright to figure this much out. I bet you didn’t even know this company existed.
Are you writing about 6 January? I watched the videos on the news and saw no attacking of capitol police, breach, or great destruction. I saw the capital hill police letting people in at the side door.
Later a capital hill cop shot through a closed door and killed a woman veteran, though. Only the capital hill police were armed and only a peaceful woman was shot and killed. You have the whole story back ward.
Locusts!
Here, I read your comment again and decided that I needed to provide the same information that I had before.
revolt
2 of 2
noun
1
: a renouncing of allegiance (as to a government or party)
especially : a determined armed uprising
2
: a movement or expression of vigorous dissent
I clicked on YOUR insurrection and saw: As in revolt, open fighting against authority (as in one’s own government). Why do you try to change meanings? Insurrections are generally armed revolt and most of us know what that means because we’ve been in them!
Perhaps you or someone can define arms, armed, and weapon etc. using your definitions? Scenario for you or anyone: Bob is being beaten with a metal pole with a trump flag attached and then sprayed in the face with bear spray. Is that person beating you with a metal pole with a trump flag attached not armed with a weapon or weapons? I’ll pop the popcorn.
Perhaps you can find a door and let yourself OUT!, as in GET OUT!!
Funny, he claims to found a way out of a country during chaos and upheaval, but can not find away out of here.
Um, that would be about a month or so later when things calmed down enough, and the airport was reopened, and non-essentials could be evacuated.
That’s easy, except click “LOG OUT” not GET OUT. Insert huge Guffaws here.
See you are NON ESSENTIAL.
TEN THUMBS UP !!!!!
OV
I know. The thought of it pisses me off and shows that we do have a government that has been taken over by the Marxists and is a tyrannist government that needs to be purged.
Let’s hope Trump/Vance can get it done and drain the swamp.
Not true, BTW don’t have a Documentarian Nick Quested filming the extremist group the Proud Boys before and during the riots.
Leave it to libs to make this country a tird world toilet- by opening the floodgates to unrestricted, unvetted immigration for 3.5+ years. Mass expulsion must take place and “The media” must be kept out of it as these criminals are rounded up and sent back where they came from- “anchor babies” and all.
Must have missed when these people attacked and desecrated the US Capital based on a lie.
Are you incapable of writing a proper English sentence? Do you think in incomplete thoughts? What is your subject? Who must have missed?
The DC Police shooting people in the face with rubber bullets & flash bang grenades started 1-6-2020. They also opened the doors to the Capitol. It’s all on video if you look. Rumble has it. Start to finish. I watched all this firsthand the day it happened. Before they started deleting video footage. I would have been in DC if they had not announced on the radio they shut all roads down into DC that day. I left work early. So instead I came home & watched the live feed videos.
Yes, that is what I saw on various videos!
As I have said before, if you think Jan. 6th was an insurrection, you need to be dropped inside an active shooting war! Then you’ll find out what an insurrection is, if you get out alive! The only death (murder) was an unarmed female veteran. So, you can take your pukie insurrection and stick it where the sun don’t shine!!!!!
Bob, do you believe it wise to assume you know what experiences someone else has had? BTW, been there, done that and got the t-shirt. I worked for a company that conducted business in a country that had a bloody coup while in country. Woke up to shooting and chaos in the streets. Witnessed a group of men beat and whip a man from a different tribe with a length of electrical cable that had the insulation stripped off down to the wire strands near the company gate. Apparently, the men got tired of beating and whipping him and dragged… Read more »
You have put out so much drivel and sociopathic jargon, that I don’t think anyone here would or should believe anything you say.
But maybe that is just me, and it may be it’s just my eye that’s beholding you.
What do we say, fellow Ammolanders?
He surely is thin on supporting evidence.
That’s what I keep saying about trumps providing supporting evidence of election fraud claims, except for the proven fraud committed by trump and co=conspirators with fake electors and his co-conspirators going to jail.
There is all kinds of evidence of election fraud. I saw an MIT math professor testify before Congress how it was mathematically impossible for Joe Biden to catch up to Trump’s lead in the overnight hours in the Wisc election.
There is lots more evidence in the swing states if you wanted to keep track. You just did not and do not want to.
I would think countering the Dominion defamation cases would have been the place for trump, co-conspirators and those accused of defamation to present their evidence of 2020 election fraud. What we know is, Dominion was awarded millions because the accusers couldn’t present any credible evidence.
Just how do you go about getting evidence when they won’t let anyone examine the machines ? Unless of course it is someone they choose.
Fox settled out of court; they were being sued for 1.6 billion but settled for 787.5 million. IMOA, Fox couldn’t prove fraud anyway.
OV, I know, in my heart that you are absolutely right. However, as WB once said, paraphrasing, of course, my brain has a hard time resisting because he is ssssssoooo easy.
to Oldman, Oldvet, & Wild Bill.
Saying on a young ladies T-shirt
.
”Never try to teach a pig to sing,
It wastes your time & annoys the pig.”
Corollary; Never try to teach a Lib. to think….
Well done…I like it!
Yes, that is true.
OV, I am done….ignoring starting NOW!
Meh, you can’t dispute my experiences and it’s totally not my problem.
You must have worked for the company in a shovel ready capacity because you sure can not communicate in writing.
Oh well, multi-guffaws for you too professor. Um, perhaps you could offer to critique for trump and grade his incoherent speeches when he’s finished? Tip for you, he doesn’t take negative criticism well.
Can you prove it to be a lie?
Right! there are a whole bunch of scumbags that are supposed to be in jail from the crap they pulled at the Supreme Court Justices homes and those Hamas inspired “mostly peacefull” protests all over the country.
I think that the government should put a bounty on illegal aliens. Capturing illegal aliens is something that needs little additional training and American families could use the extra cash.
WB, Yeah! For you that would be a LARGE second income. I’m sure that would be three times higher than social security payments per month for a retired brain surgeon.
You know how the governments botch everything up. So lets leave the task to private industry.
WB, that is an industry I would invest in. Returns on your money should deliver high yields.
it has been done here in florida as well
Registered Republican? He was 20 years old. At the last major election in 2020 he would’ve been 16. He hasn’t even voted in any major election yet… and now he never will. The only election you need to declare a party is a primary. Democrats here in WI “registered” as Republicans to vote in primaries in the last 2 election cycles, trying to keep Trump off the ballot when their candidate was a lock and their votes weren’t needed for a Democrat.They even bragged about it when interviewed on TV.
That is good insight!!
Interesting how anti gun democrats use gun violence rhetoric to further their agenda’s. “I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price,” Schumer said. Biden stated: “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.” And there you have it… I will NEVER stand united next to a democrat. Keep you guns oiled, hit the range regularity and… Read more »
Oh, shit. I never heard the bullseye comment. Yes he lead the assassination on Donald Trump with his words. He should be locked up for instigating it.
The only time you would put a person in the bullseye is when you are going to shoot them. He is no different than Osama Bin Laden.
Trump 2024
Donald Trump is a good bit different from Osama… just sayin
Oops. I was saying obiden is no different. Sorry!
Leftist media is calling for calm because they fear tables being turned. I hope all conservatives recognize that shooting Biden would mean replacing him with Kamala AND gain her a significant sympathy vote. Long as Trump survives, let them continue proving themselves dangerous to civilized society.
The leftist are appealing for calm because they fear an unceremonious stretching of necks. They are turning this country into a tird world banana republic. Do they REALLY want to start up with this sh*t?
Where are the social media videos taken by the event participants? You know, the hundreds of cameras that were recording when it happened?
HLB
there are a few posts where you can SEE the distortion in the air before the slug hit trumps ear I bet there are 100s that streamed the rally so even if the lettered crooks take every phone video is already out
I want to know…is this enough to get you to participate in your most sacred civic duty? You know who I’m speaking to!
Fight, Fight, Fight, Fight!
My questions are how there could be a prominent high point, useful for shooting, well within the security periphery that the SS and police were not looking closely at, how people could be yelling for several minutes that there is a guy with a rifle on the roof and Trump is not immediately taken to cover, how a policeman apparently climbed the ladder to the roof, backed off when the shooter pointed his rifle at him, and did not stay close to cover with his arms the moment when the shooter pointed back at Trump, and how the SS and… Read more »
The shooter was “neutralized”, you say. What you mean is, the shooter was shut up permanently under the “Dead Men Tell No Tales” doctrine… Unable to stop President Trump any other way, the Biden Puppeteers have resorted to attempted murder. Unsuccessful, who can doubt that they will try again?
We should bring Mossad into the investigation- that would probably put an end to it.
More good Trump news just in: BREAKING: Judge Dismisses Trump Classified Documents Case By Joe Cunningham | 10:07 AM on July 15, 2024 Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the Mar-a-Lago documents case against former president Donald Trump, has dismissed the case, citing a violation of the appointments clause. The judge granted the Trump defense team’s motion in a shocking move on Monday morning. “The Superseding Indictment is DISMISSED because Special Counsel Smith’s appointment violates the Appointments Clause of the United States Constitution,” her order states. “Special Counsel Smith’s use of a permanent indefinite appropriation also violates the Appropriations Clause […] but… Read more »
I am expecting a totally different Trump today. I heard he has written a totally different address to the convention. What will the dems do now?
They still gonna try and kill him?…….. or, is it too late?
Why was the roof of a building so close to the event left unprotected? The secret service and local law enforcement failed on this one.
easily in pistol range
The Secret Service on the ground with Trump did their jobs. The Secret Service that did the site survey DID NOT! Outside the inner zone? BS if you have a clear view of Trump it should be guarded! Time for some heads to roll in the Secret Service!
BFD, jumping on him AFTER he hit the deck on his own. THAT is what “doing their job” amounts to?
In future Trump should be protected by rifle-bullet proof glass when making public appearances.
Maybe he should have joined the Marine Corps and learned to shoot instead of playing X-Box on the roof of a building. Even his High School Rifle team turned him down because he was such a BAD SHOT. Now he’s just a slab of dead meat in a morgue’s freezer. A fitting end to such an IDIOT.
Charles Wittman would be so disappointed in this idiot.
5 shots at 130 yards and still misses?
You sound very disappointed at the miss. Left Wing Radio (NPR) was quick to also point out this morning that he was member of the local gun club. I’m sure you heard it. To miss the center of a small moving target (the head) by only a few inches is actually a very good shot. And yes, I get the JFK reference.
guessing you have never hunted wild boars
No, never have. Ergo I don’t really understand the comment unless you are saying that missing a perfect hit on a moving target by 2 moa is a bad shot. It would have been less than one if Trump did not turn his head. Most people can’t do that on a stationary paper target.
What do you think of Sgt2111? The Charles Wittman (sic) reference suggests he’s a real sicko.
It’s quite obvious that the Biden administration’s numerous sham trials of Donald Trump aren’t working. It is conceivable that the DemocRAT deep state realizes that quite possibly the only way to stop Trump is to kill him. The Secret Service either through negligence or intentionally, failed to address the building and roof used by the shooter. Some reports indicate that police/Secret Service were alerted that a man was on that roof with a gun some 2-4 minutes before the shooting started. It seems that too many things were done wrong, which indicates that this incident may have been staged with… Read more »
Democrats and the MSM stoked the hatred against Trump for the last 8 years and now the evil POS are trying to say that they had nothing to do with this assassination attemp . No you evil scumbags on the left have blood on your hands and own this bloodshed and attemp to kill a former president .
FJB and the MSM and all Democrats .
I’m shocked to discover that the nutjob commentators are already engaging in conspiracy theories when the facts aren’t known.
This was a case of incompetence, not conspiracy. It’s mindboggling to me that folks in these forums are so quick to point out the incompetence of the government (well deserved) in so many ways, but then in nearly the same breath talk about the conspiracy of the “Deep State”, that this attempt was undoubtedly part of a cabal of government operatives, etc etc etc. You can’t have it both ways, nerds. This wasn’t a conspiracy, it was a case of a nutjob, quite possibly incited by the elevated rhetoric against a guy who, while a confirmed Big Government blowhard authoritarian,… Read more »
Pretty obvious this was a Secret Service op. Only a complete and utter idiot would think that a “professional” security team would have “somehow overlooked” several obvious sniper’s perches within easy range of the podium. That shot could have easily been taken with open sights let alone optics. Also “funny” that the shooter was in a commercial for Blackrock who’s CEO is a rabid anti-Trumper. This whole thing reeks of MKUltra and Secret Service collusion (at the very least). The security detail CO should lose their job – as in “unemployed” and probably be brought up on charges. The head… Read more »
any person who qualified as a marksman with a m1 garand could make it, any hunter (it is pa.) deer are taken across fields all the time 390 feet…..a wallmart parking lot is longer than that
Can’t tell you how safe I felt when news came on with the FBI and ATF on the stage explaining that they were taking over the investigation of this shooting. NOT, some of those that have the most to lose if he becomes president were totally in charge of the investigation.
scumbags all
Blackrock Vanguard and State Street,control, 33 Trillion dollars in investment money with Blackrock having 19 Trillion. I believe the book I read was the Great Reset……which is how the NWO will be ushered in. Not sure until I can pull up a copy of our Library records…..but when I can, I will let you know.
our retirement money used against US
Watching Fox right now. This is huge….. Thay had eyes on the shooter at least 1/2 hour before Trump went on to talk. Talk about no comms? Huge Cospirancy going on. Trump cannot speak outside any more. The deck is STACKED against him.
use his own people , if he asked for a detail you can bet 1000 oath keepers would protect him
A whole lot of info is pouring out now. I guess that they were able to get his phone open…….and now I understand why Blackrock might be behind this.
They didn’t want to get Trump elected because he might do something that would stop them from controlling China, Russia, and the rest of the world financially.
There’s only two ways this happens.
Epic fail on part of USSS. Or it was a real setup.
No drones, 138yds line of sight open roof.
The dummy kid absolutely chose the wrong type of rifle.
God saved Trump 3x that day, but one good man went on to see the great lord.
1) Local sheriff deputies spooked the shooter, shooter then rushed to fire.
2) Trump turns his head split second after being fired upon.
3) Roof sniper quicky takes out the shooter.
I keep running the thought around in the back of my head:
What if this dingbat kid had been taught about proper sniper positioning and cover?
That leads me down the path of asking the question:
Why was he in a spot that was VERY open to not only observation, but NEUTRALIZATION?
Yeah, this STINKS. Badly.
Yes, it smells a bit fishy. I missed #4 on my list, no bullet glass at the podium. And then we must ask, snipers are usually No.2 on a roof, No.1 are the spotters, so who was spotting? Some idiot on a roof just 130yds away should be like pulling your pants down a seeing your weener there. What happened happened, but nothing seems to be adding up right.
The Left just screwed themselves. Badly. Dustbin of history bad. Nobody with half a brain believes the Commiecrats’ lies, and the remaining base consists of brownshirts, blackshirts and jihadis. What happened is both a miracle and an inflection point. After 8 years of violent rhetoric, people are waking up and getting the hell away from this domestic enemy of the Constitution. Nothing will ever be the same again, and nothing can stop what’s yet to come.
Nobody can blame liberals. They “appeal for calm”.
Has anyone actually seen a pic of the dead shooter? Was it actually 20yr old Crooks? The whole things stinks like dead fish.
It NEVER should have been allowed to happen in the first place!
An excerpt from today’s New York Sun email: “It’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” President Biden is heard telling supporters in a recent conversation. Will he be accused of advocating violence the way, say, Governor Palin of Alaska was accused of inspiring an attempt on a congresswoman’s life?, The New York Sun is asking. The hand of God surely saved Trump that day, just as the hand of God is supernaturally causing every other vicious lawfare & media attack on Trump to blow up in the left’s faces. The power of prayer is obvious to those with eyes… Read more »
I am truly surprised. I’ve been confident for quite a while that the first attempt at popping Pepe the Frog’s melon, orange cantaloupe in this case, would be a patriotic Ukrainian who can’t abide Trump handing his country back over to Putin like he has repeatedly said he would do. Especially after so many lives, property, and livelihoods have been destroyed by Pooty and the orcs. Notwithstanding, there are an abundance of other tribes of similar mindset including the Pedocrat pro-abortionists, the Islamists, and sundry run of the mill leftist crazies such as BLM or Antifers.
Have you read anything about project 2025? What I’ve seen looks like propaganda to fire up democrats and shift moderates that direction. I think Trump should put in a bit more effort to distance himself from that nonsense. Point being that there are many of the less mentally-stable members of society who read about this and decide that obviously it is Trump’s plan – making him evil beyond mustache-man and a risk to all. I fear this will not be the last attempt. I hope no-one decides to seek retribution as taking out biden would likely insure kamala becoming president.… Read more »
This should prove to the American people that Trump is a strong leader and what the country needs right now and is the exact opposite of the corrupt feeble idiot presently occupying the oval office.
Trump 2024
I see our Resident russian Trolls are on here attacking LEOs
What are you doing here liberal? Take a wrong turn at gay nation?
So, you can’t find anything else to do?
No incriminating Biden laptops to lie and deflect about?
Love it.