More Biden-Harris Gun Control in New Executive Order

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Another Biden-Harris executive order on guns: Flash with no substance? Joe Biden IMG whitehouse-gov

Days after releasing a much-ballyhooed 13-page progress report on the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, the Biden-Harris administration has announced a new executive order that may be more flash than substance, but it will generate some headlines with the national election just over one month away.

According to the announcement, this executive order establishes an “Emerging Firearms Threats Task Force” to assess “the threat posed by machinegun conversion devices and unserialized, 3D-printed firearms.” This report, due within 90 days, will also include “an assessment of federal agencies’ operational and legal capacities to detect, intercept, and seize machinegun conversion devices and unserialized, 3D-printed firearms; and an interagency plan for combatting these emerging threats. The report will include any additional authorities or funding the federal agencies need from Congress in order to complete this work.”

There doesn’t appear to be anything in this exercise about actually confronting, arresting, prosecuting or taking down criminals.

An old political axiom holds that the best way to do nothing is to launch a study. In this case, announcing a “task force” which will consist of “leadership from key federal departments and agencies” to do an “assessment” just might be the new way to define an old political tactic of making it look like something is being done.

Translation: The Biden-Harris White House just used 2,748 words to essentially accomplish nothing.

Of course, the announcement generated news coverage. It talked about the dangers posed by “conversion devices” used to illegally convert semiautomatic firearms to fire full auto. Fox News reported, “The assessment will also include a review of federal agencies, operational and legal capacities to detect, intercept and seize these firearm and firearm components.”

That still doesn’t look like gang thugs and other miscreants will be rounded up and imprisoned.

Buried deeper in the White House announcement is this: “By the end of October, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) will announce that states may choose to use Medicaid to pay a health care provider for counseling parents and caregivers on firearm safety and injury prevention.”

Are these “health care providers” also certified firearms instructors? If not, any “counseling” they might offer, whether it is to get guns out of the house or make sure there’s a loaded Model 1911 in every room, should be eyed with suspicion.

Once again, this reveals the Biden-Harris philosophy, which treats gun-related violence as a public health problem—which it isn’t—rather than a crime problem, which it most definitely is.

Another tenet of the Biden-Harris announcement is “Facilitating Enhanced Background Checks for Individuals Under Age 21.” Included in this one learns that the Justice Department “is issuing model legislation that additional states may use to inform their own legislation and allow a carve-out to share juvenile records solely for the purpose of enhanced background checks.”

A few lines later, the announcement says, “Part of the enhanced background check requires requesting records from state and local law enforcement and mental health repositories about potential purchasers under 21.”

Also included in the White House announcement:

“Today, the FBI is announcing that it will collect additional detail in its data collection for gunshot injury wounds in the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) by June 2025. The FBI will implement a new injury code to reflect a gunshot wound in the NIBRS victim segment. NIBRS will also enable law enforcement agencies to submit additional detail as to how firearms were used in specific crimes, and the nature of the crime at issue.”

Will this make the FBI annual crime report more user-friendly? Since 2020, the easily understood and utilized Uniform Crime Report has been replaced by the NIBRS, which makes information more difficult to obtain, understand and utilize. When this correspondent tried repeatedly to contact FBI information officers for clarifications, via telephone voice mails and emails, nobody from the agency ever responded.

“Encouraging Safe Storage of Firearms: Today, the Department of Education is providing schools, school boards, and policymakers with a new tool to promote safe gun storage in their communities. Following up on its initial safe storage actions, the Department of Education is publishing an interactive website that highlights examples of state, community, and school district actions across the nation that promote safe gun storage within school communities. The website includes a map with state safe storage laws, examples of how schools are communicating with parents about safe storage, and examples of local policies on safe storage education. This new resource builds on guidance the Department published earlier this year to highlight physical safety measures schools can pursue to help keep students safe in the event of gun violence in schools.”

And then there is this:

“Facilitating Voluntary Out-of-Home Storage to Prevent Firearm Suicide: Voluntary out-of-home storage of firearms is an effective tactic to saves lives by creating time and space between a person in crisis and a firearm. A number of states, including ColoradoLouisianaMarylandNorth Carolina, and Wisconsin, have developed gun storage maps to show different locations where a gun owner can voluntarily store their firearms…”

It raises the question, what happens in the event a gun owner needs his/her firearm in an emergency, such as a home invasion or the aftermath of a natural or man-made disaster?

While all of this may sound good and cause anti-gunners to feel like something is being done, is it all smoke and mirrors?

Will any of this stop a single madman from trying to shoot a president or a candidate for office? Will it prevent a teen thug from robbing a convenience store and maybe shooting the clerk?

If not, then what really is the point?


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musicman44mag

From the article:Translation: The Biden-Harris White House just used 2,748 words to essentially accomplish nothing.
Hell, in my opinion they did that for almost four years and didn’t accomplish anything good, only the destruction of our country and in their own words, destruction of our democracy.

Wild Bill

Thank you for responding to your readers!

Tionico

Rolling up their sleeves? HAH! They have none. they are both naked but so stupid they are not even aware of it. They are the embodiment of the tale of the Emperor who has New Clothes and is utterly clueless about it.

nrringlee

It is a jobs program for many former employees of astroturf gun control groups. Your tax dollars at work.

Colt

but what about the Governments penchant for gun violence..?

Afterall, they put a hit out on Trump with the advertisement for $150K
JFK would chime in here as well, but wait, they killed him in a cover up.
Biden sure let alot of illegals that formed gangs into the Country.

 Responsible gun ownership is the duty of every qualified and capable citizen.  When the government does not trust decent people with guns Decent people can no longer trust their government.

I don’t trust democrats Government.

swmft

well said

musicman44mag

democrat = manipulative, deceptive, deviant, perverted, sexist, racist, defective people and liars.

Get Out

Must have been a coincidence, but those are definitely trump traits. He’s also a repeat criminal and convicted felon too.

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hippybiker

FOAD! Dirt Bag!

Get Out

Appears the truth definitely hurts, guffaw.

Deg4u

You would know the truth if it bit you in the rear end.

musicman44mag

Just watched Kamalatoe give her speech at the border. Where in the hell was she? Tall fences, Razor wire everywhere and not one illegal in the back ground when she walked, in fact, in one shot there was our border patrol on the other side of the fence. She wants a clear path for illegals to become citizens and for DACA kids. She complained that sometimes it takes 4 and 5 years to see a panel to try and become citizens. I say, F-u- beotch, what about the J-6ers that have been in jail for almost 4 years that are… Read more »

Rockman1977

She continues to say what she is going to do and I continue to wonder why it wasn’t already done while you have been in office this last term???

musicman44mag

I totally agree and I like the last three words of your paragraph best.

Finnky

Had to go back and reread @Rockman – that one word sure is sweet – “last!”

Silver Creek

Reports of Kamala Harris going shopping daily at high end department stores buying designer clothing and designer purses and shoes just like your lying, coniving, irritating, annoying, ex wife does

Get Out

trump the fraudster, repeat criminal and a convicted felon (34 counts).
The current bombshell for trump is going to be trump explaining diddy’s links to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein following his sex trafficking arrest

Deg4u

Why don’t you go to a place you are welcome cause you sure are not here.

Get Out

Isn’t America great, already and the 1st Amendment?

Get Out

Umm, someone correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t trump POTUS in 2019 and in charge of DOJ and federal prisons? Wonder if diddy has anything on donald?

FYI, donald trump once called Sean “Diddy” Combs a “good guy” and said he was “going to stick up for him.” (Chuckle)

Get Out

Comrade, there’s an old saying that goes something like this: “You can judge a man by the company he keeps.” Which spells trouble for Donald Trump.
At least 11 people who played a role in Trump’s presidential campaigns or his administration have been charged with crimes, with Tom Barrack, who chaired Trump’s inaugural committee and has been a longtime friend, accused of illegal foreign lobbying on behalf of the United Arab Emirates.

BTW, that list of criminals working for the former criminal in chief has grown bigly. Guffaw.

Wild Bill

What you are describing is guilt by association, which is not allowed in our system, but is used in communist and third world countries. You have said a lot about your self, here.

Get Out

You are correct about guilt by association can’t be used against trump; however, trumps boys and girls are turning on him and linking him to his criminal involvement. Trumps a repeat criminal and it’s catching up with him.

Trump’s modus operandi — feign ignorance when pressed about praise by an odious person; if absolutely necessary, issue a vague or self-evidently insincere condemnation and change the subject — brings new meaning to “guilt by association.”
Donald Trump brings new meaning to ‘guilt by association’ (thehill.com)

Wild Bill

That is obviously not true.

musicman44mag
Arny

Keyword ACCUSED. Not proven guilty.

Silver Creek

Hey get out-
Did you forget to take your psychotic medicine this morning?
It sounds like you are having some kind of mental health issues.

3l120

Let’s agree that Goat has an agenda to rule us up. Nothing more. He, under a series of names has been doing that for well over a year. Ignore him/her/it, give a thumbs down, and ignore his inane comments. He will pop up again, but so what! Think of his/her/its remarks as coming directly from the Harris talking points, and as crap.

Boom

I promise you, Epstein is alive and well… He walked right out the front doors of that prison.

Arny

I’m curious. Just how many felons have you known that has Not spent one day in jail ?

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Appears it depends on the judge and the severity of the crimes. Do first time felony offenders go to jail? Some first-time felony offenders go to jail. However, it’s possible for a person to receive a sentence for a felony conviction without a period of incarceration. Whether a person goes to jail for a first-time felony offense depends on a number of factors including the severity of the charges and whether the offender has a criminal history. Generally, judges have discretion within a range of possible sentences in order to determine an appropriate amount of jail time. Not all felons… Read more »

Get Out

No, right now, it’s due to felon trumps appeals.

He’s a felon, no guns for crooks.

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Wild Bill

Your ignorance of the legal system is mind-boggling.

Get Out

Never went to law school, so why don’t you educate us on the legal system?

Wild Bill

It is obvious that you did not go to law school, which is why you get this conviction issue wrong. I will explain the part about appeals, but no more because there is not room or time to explain the legal system, in this forum, to educate you.
The conviction is not final because it is on appeal. Do you understand now?
Go take some classes.

Get Out

Snickering, go six posts up and you’ll see I posted to ov 1 day ago: “No, right now, it’s due to felon trumps appeals.
He’s a felon, no guns for crooks.”

You’ll need to read the prior posts, and you might be caught up, hoot with laughter.

Get Out

From my understanding, imposing Christianity on others is frowned upon, is it not? What does your bible (God) tell you about imposing on others?
Even the First Amendment of our US Constitution and BoR has something about imposing your religion on others.

Get Out

Good boy, keep your religion questions to yourself, thank you.

Wild Bill

Giving orders again. Be more polite and you can upgrade yourself, in the eyes of this readership, to retard.

Get Out

Guffaw and people tell their dogs good boy too. Have someone pat you on the head to complete the process. Insert hooting with laughter here.

Get Out

What ladies are you referring too?

Wild Bill

No, it does not. Bursting out in laughter, sorry. Had you actually read it you would know! You have revealed yourself, yet again, clown.

Get Out

Doubt it.

Get Out

Explain it to us then.

Get Out

Provide your proof. If trump isn’t a felon, why did his lawyers petition the court to overturn his felony conviction?

Wild Bill

Snicker … because that is the language of the court system.

Get Out

Sounds like a stall tactic used by a rich repeat criminal.

Get Out

Proven time and again, trumps a felon.

Wild Bill

No one quotes Juan Merchan because he is corrupt.

Get Out

Doubt you can provide proof of that, but we know and can prove trump is definitely a corrupt 34-count felon.

Wild Bill

He is not a felon because he is not convicted yet.

Get Out

He was convicted by the jury, the 34-count felon is now awaiting sentencing.

Why did his lawyers petition the courts to overturn his 34-felony convictions?

Felons can’t have firearms, why were his guns taken away?

  • Federal law prohibits people with felony convictions from possessing or acquiring firearms.
  • Former President Donald Trump is also prohibited from possessing a gun under state laws in Florida, where he lives, and in New York, where he was convicted.
Wild Bill

I began as a recruit. My first MOS was combat engineer. Then infantry officer, back to combat engineer officer, Aide-de-Camp, commander, and Judge Advocate General’s Corp.

Wild Bill

We are, again and still, equals!! I am sure that nothing will detour him.

Get Out

Don’t forget to go six posts up on that other comment about trumps appeal, and I’m not even a lawyer to know of his many, many appeals.

Get Out

I was RSO of a pistol range and had a JAG officer, Judge Advocate General’s Corps load his M9 pistol mag. with all 15 rounds in backwards. To this day I’m still not sure how he managed it.
We got him squared away and he qualified sharpshooter.

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Wild Bill

Your commander should have made you safety officer of the shit burning detail until the end of your tour.

Get Out

Umm, porta potty trucks came around twice a week. When we did burn honey pots, it was done upwind of officer’s quarters. They didn’t like it.

Get Out

Yeah, about that. Kinda hard to dispute evidence like checks, documents and testimony from Cohen and stormy Daniels.

Get Out

I didn’t prove anything. Fraud was proven by the courts and 34 count felon trump was unable to prove the evidence wasn’t genuine.

Jurors in the New York criminal trial against former President Donald Trump have convicted him of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

The jurors said they unanimously agreed that Trump falsified business records to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

Get Out

Prove me wrong then, we’ll wait. Post your sources.

Get Out

He was convicted by the jury, the 34-count felon is now awaiting sentencing.
Why did his lawyers petition the courts to overturn his 34-felony convictions?
Felons can’t have firearms, why were his guns taken away?

  • Federal law prohibits people with felony convictions from possessing or acquiring firearms.
  • Former President Donald Trump is also prohibited from possessing a gun under state laws in Florida, where he lives, and in New York, where he was convicted.
Wild Bill

The trial was replete with constitutional errors, and the jury was from an all democrat district. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial, and I am sure that the conviction will not withstand appellate scrutiny. It is not a conviction, yet, and probably never will be.

Get Out

What’s this, confused lawyer jargon? You appear confused on the convicted thing, is or isn’t. You say the conviction won’t stand then say it’s not a conviction.

A judge would toss you and your case for being unprepared…

Get Out

Where does trump stand on abortion again? The former 5 Draft Deferrals, bone spur coward, fraudster, cheating husband and liar in chief looks like he’s playing the floor game of “Twister” whenever he’s asked about his position on abortion. Tim Walz deftly handled Fox News’ Shannon Bream’s grilling on abortion rights during his appearance Sunday, calling her attempts to steer the conversation to whether there would be limits to how late the procedure would be allowed a “distraction.” In what was his first solo interview since becoming the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Walz keep his cool and deflect tricky questions. “I have been… Read more »

Wild Bill

Where Trump stands on that issue is irrelevant. That issue is a 10th Amendment powers and authorities of the states issue. Were you not paying attention when the S. CT spoke?

musicman44mag

LOL, pay attention? He thinks that would cost him money so he doesn’t.

Wild Bill

Yes, probably.

Get Out

trump doesn’t stand on anything; he has concepts of a plan though.

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Get Out

Concur, trump stands head and shoulders above most in the criminal world.

Glad I’m not in his no-class criminal world.

Wild Bill

You follow Kamala because she is non threatening to your self concept.

Get Out

OV, you ever install a new recoil pad on a rifle.

Wild Bill

I am sure that a man like Trump cows a person like you.

Wild Bill

He definitely has charachter flaws.

Get Out

Another possibility is WB has lost control of his faculties and lashing out, perhaps he should go lie down.

Get Out

Speaking of cows, how much do you think he’d dress out now days.

Nick

If you wanna talk about plans, ask Pochantas, she had a plan for EVERYTHING!
Now Kamala, has a plan too, since she’s too stupid to rehearse her lines… When asked a question, “I have a plan for that!”
So, ask your lefties about plans.

Get Out

Guffaw, “I Have Concepts of a Plan” is a memorable quote from the former bone spur criminal and felon in chief

Nick

Mmmhhhmmm, and do tell, did Trump every claim to be a Marine, like you have?…
Stealing valor ain’t too good.

Get Out

Never said he claimed to be a Marine, but then your delusional BS must have conjured it from somewhere.

On July 4, 2023, former liar in chief donald trump posted an image depicting himself as a military leader in the Revolutionary War.

I concur, “Stealing valor ain’t too good.”

trump would have been booted out with a Big Chicken Dinner for being a liar, fraudster, cheat, thief, felon and repeat criminal

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Nick

Yes and you qualified with an M14 at Edsons Range, and were a Marine on Sea Duty.
Right.

You are a liar.

Get Out

Being a buffoon obviously comes naturally for you, it’s Edson Range, not Edsons Range halfwit.

Nick

Why not an M16A1?

Get Out

Not much of weapons expert after all are you? Qualified with the M16A1 in bootcamp, then, qualified with the M14 and 1911 prior to going out on sea duty.

Nick

Funny, now you mention the M16A1! You never mentioned it before…

Get Out

This will overwhelm your puny mind, we were issued M16’s (No forward assist) for drill at MCRD San Diego. Some even had the chrome-plated bore too. The M16A1 was issued while at the Weapons and Field Training Battalion on Camp Pendelton for two weeks during recruit rifle qualifications.

Appears your knowledge is seriously lacking for a self-proclaimed weapons hotshot concerning USMC weapons or when said weapons were issued.

Nick

Wait, so now we went from being issued M14’s as your service rifle to now M16s? And M16’s even the XM16’s had forward assists.
And all M16’s, had chrome plated bores and chambers.

Get Out

Nope, read the post again, I’ll slow it down and help you assimilate the chronological order, stay focused now. Boot camp M16 (No forward assist for drill), boot camp rifle quantifications at (WTB Edson Range) M16A1 issued for qualification, Sea School issued M14 due to the MarDet issued the M14. Got it straight now, dense one?

Nick

You said you qualified in 1975 with an M14. Nonsense.

Nick

Hey hey, calm down, you told us you qualified with an M14 in 1975… Back when the standard issue rifle was the M16A1, so Trump’s lack of service isn’t really something you wanna bring up, since Trump’s never claimed to have been in the service.

Unlike you, who claims to have been qualifying with a rifle, in and era where it wasn’t being issued.
So who’s the lying stealing valor coward here?

Nick

And Kung Fu Walz didn’t exactly wear the uniform he claims to have worn either… So, again, who’s stealing valor? NOT TRUMP!

Get Out

Proving you’re not as smart as you think you are, is way too easy. Obvious your ignorance concerning when or type of military weapons were issued is very extensive. When Marines are assigned Sea Duty, the MarDet duty weapons used on ship was the M14, 12 Ga. riot shotgun and .45 ACP. We also used the M60 MG, M79 40mm grenade launcher and bayonets. All Marines qualified with the M14 and the .45 ACP, the other weapons we FAM (Familiarization) fired. BTW, all Marines assigned to Sea Duty must have Combat Arms MOS, tour of duty was 2 years. You… Read more »

Nick

Before we quibble about the details, what era was this? What years were you a Marine on sea duty?

Get Out

No quibbling required; you’re an idiot, you think you know everything, but you know nothing. Figure it out stupid, what year did I say I qualified with the M14?

Nick

You said,
“I qualified on Edson Range Camp Pendelton, California 1975. We fired from 200 yds. standing, kneeling and sitting, slow fire and sitting rapid fire, 300 yds rapid prone, 500 yds slow fire prone.We got to shoot on a new popup target range that simulated an attack from 500 yds. down to 150 yds. We were given a zone of fire and any targets that popped up were ours to shoot. We were given a read out of our hit percentages, fun time and free ammo.”

That was second from the bottom of the comments section here,
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/09/should-you-buy-a-designated-marksman-rifle-dmr/

Nick

Didn’t the Marines adopt the M16A1 in ’68…

Get Out

Uh-Huh, and the M203 40mm grenade launcher (Attached to M16 rifle) was adopted in 1969 too, it was to replace the M-79 but (Oh My) it to, is still in service today, but then a know it all such as yourself would know that….

Nick

I don’t know how we got from talking about the M16 and it’s variants to talking about the M203…
No one uses the M16A1 anymore. The American military issues M4’s as primary weapons and the M16A4 is relegated to support troops and National Guard.

Get Out

Oh, that’s because you’re the buffoon who continually squawks about weapons adopted in year whatever, so you, the wisenheimer believes no other weapon is issued after that date. Supply chains don’t work that way or that fast, but then you knew that too. BTW, my unit went out on LF6F “Landing Force 6th Fleet” into Mediterranean Sea with a mixture of .45 ACP (Phased out) and Berreta M9 (Adopted 1985) pistols.

Top

Another cool aid drinker

Get Out

Cherry was the best.

Get Out

Virgin Mary.

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musicman44mag

That is a common move that the left pulls. I think there must be a set of rules written on how to argue anything that is common sense and logic and all the left goes to those tactics. Nick is very good at it. I have spotted that with myself and others several times.

Finnky

Why ever would anyone ever drink a virgin Bloody Mary? Bloody Mary’s are nasty – alcohol is the only redeeming quality.

Wild Bill

Blasphemer.

jack mac

When I give a downvote, I usually respond with a reason. In your case, I just wanted to round out the downvotes to 12.

musicman44mag

Can I help? Just because.

Oldman

Man, you guys keep ;giving this fool his Jollies……..I wanna know…Which is he? Fric or Frac or both. If you don’t answer him he will get bored and try to learn up on something he can’t understand. I think he is a good candidate to run against JD in ’28, ie; if he hasn’t stumbled and shot himself in the nutsack, or where his nutsack was before they gelded him. Give it up guys…IS NOT worth it.

Deg4u

You must be one of those Demo craps cause you sound just like them. You are always on the wrong end of things on here, in other jack ass.

Get Out

No, I’m unaffiliated, independent and a freethinker.

Get Out

Hmm fine, trumps a liar.

Wild Bill

You better take a logic class.

Get Out

(“Logic is the cement of our civilization, with which we ascend from chaos, using reason as our guide” – T’Plana-Hath, Vulcan High Priestess.) dif-tor heh smusma

Wild Bill

Your education comes from Star Trek? No wonder you get so much wrong. How did you ever make a living? Get some education. There must be a junior college near you.

musicman44mag

and a coward that is not willing to fight for or help Israel and would send his children and grandchildren to Canada when duty calls.

We know you never served.

Trump 2024

Get Out

Put up your entire gun collection, anything and everything gun related to find out if I served? Let’s see what you know.

Wild Bill

I saw your description of chain of command and additional comments. You got the troop leading procedures wrong. An officer or sr. NCO would not have gotten that wrong.

Get Out

Don’t egg him on, my rule is you probably shouldn’t impugn someone you don’t know on a public forum without knowing their background.

musicman44mag

He knows me well enough that he understands that I, unlike you, are willing to die for my country, have served my country, support Israel, hate demonrats because they are stupid and pussy’s as well as I support Donald Trump because he is the best president in the last 20 years to Make America Great Again as well as care for the people that support and run this country, not the upper class which he is of most highest.

Viva La Trump 2024

Nick

So Israel 1st, but what happened to MAGA and America 1st?
Does not compute.

Wild Bill

Israel is our proxy in the middle east. So funds and weapons to Israel really is not Israel first because they are killing our enemies for us.

Nick

Palestinian children aren’t my enemies.
18,000 dead kids there.
Are those your “enemies”?

Wild Bill

Don’t be silly the dead can’t be our enemies. That is why we kill them. None of the Palestinians are innocent, and they program their children to be violent, mindless hating terrorists.

Nick

I’m not being silly, 18,000 dead children in Palestine. That’s not silly. It’s evil. And I don’t want my tax dollars going to fund Israel’s slaughter of those children. But I guess, in your mind, Team America, World Police!!! I’m not buying it. Tell me, do you like the idea of America 1st? MAGA? How is funding and arming Israel, Ukraine, dozens of other countries, helping American citizens, who are wasting away in this once great country? In your mind, we have money for endless wars in the middle east, but no money for our own country, for our own… Read more »

Nick

And do you know why, the Palestinians, fight Israel? It’s because Israel has them boxed in, and has for decades. Palestine pays taxes to Israel, gets no representation. The Palestinian people live in worse than third world conditions and Israel controls everything that goes in or out. Is it difficult to understand why the Palestinians would be mad? By the way, didn’t some old dead white guys get pissed off once upon a time because they had to pay taxes and didn’t get any representation and were fed up with tyranny so they started a war? 1776? Declaration of Independence?… Read more »

Oldman

Starting to sound like logician, gout.. If you don’t know that person then how would you know his background? Maybe you should post your diploma from eighth grade. You got it about four months ago didn’t you? Or did you graduate at all?

Wild Bill

We can make some fairly accurate guesses from what you write and how you write. That leads us to the conclusion that you are impugn worthy.

musicman44mag

He is a scared little boy that tells others what they should and shouldn’t say because the government is listening and reading and he is afraid that if you say something they don’t want you to, they will come pay you a visit. He has said that to at least 3 people that I recall.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SV-bLn5waVU?si=N5XgrjQaJVqAa0cv

FEMA hard at work

Get Out

I’ll add this too, I was surprised you went the “We know you never served” route when I had suggested you load 3 tracers in you AR mags on this forum to give you a visual your mag was 3 rounds from going dry. I had mentioned my units SOP was to load our 7 M16 mags in that configuration when deployed and live fire scenarios.

musicman44mag

Ya right. Show me the proof that you said that. Come on, show me. You can’t because it never happened. LMAO

musicman44mag

I know, he is a Muslim plain and simple and is only here to fight for Allah and Omar and wont support the Jewish people or Israel.

Nick

So much for America 1st, we gotta go to WW3 to save Israel.
Hell no, I won’t go. America 1st.

Wild Bill

It is the other way around. Israel is negating one of the allies that China is depending on. That ally is Iran.
Ukraine is negating another of the allies that China was depending on. That ally being Russia.
War through our proxies is keeping us out of war with China.
Now, if Trump, as the next president, puts tariffs on China, we can reduce China’s national ability to prosecute WWIII.

Nick

So pushing China, Russia, closer together, along with Iran, Brazil, India…
You don’t see that as an issue?

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Here’s the conversation 9 months ago, I’ve since cleaned out 5 years’ worth of comments. 30-Round M4 Magazines Are Core Equipment, Prove Me Wrong? (ammoland.com) musicman44mag  Reply to musicman44mag  9 months ago Thank you for sharing. I always thought that in a firefight I would not want to necessarily toss a mag with a few rounds in it or continue the situation with a mag that had only a few rounds. I don’t have mags with windows. The tracer idea is excellent. You made my day. I never thought to have any because of the possibility of starting a fire but… Read more »

musicman44mag

Oh well, then what went wrong.

Get Out

This is what went wrong.

musicman44mag

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 3 days ago

Ya right. Show me the proof that you said that. Come on, show me. You can’t because it never happened. LMAO

musicman44mag

Oh, that’s right, everything you spew is from the fake news. Sorry I forgot.

Get Out

What fake news are you referring to, you’ve been shown proof. Your honesty and integrity are taking a hit right now. Proof can be read right here on these forums.

musicman44mag

Aren’t you the one that always trashes trump and puts out shit from different fake news companies and says prove your statement you cant because you cant find it?

musicman44mag

Isn’t he the one that always talks shit about Trump and anytime you say something about it he insists that you go get the information when he knows that they pull it down where it can’t be found. Which has been proven time and again that the government told fake book and tweaker what to pull down and that their agents worked for them.

musicman44mag

I like how you interpreted that. and the society she is in reference to is them losing control of us. I think that is why they are trying to pull out all stops they know we have reached the end of tolerance and it is time for them to get the equity that only republicans have been getting and all the constitutional and upper echelon law brakers to have the inclusion they so richly deserve.

That is what I think when I hear equity and inclusion. No one escapes.

Get Out

The difference is trumps a proven liar and convicted felon. The 9-month-old statement you say isn’t there was found, and you know it.

musicman44mag
 Reply to Get Out
 6 months ago
Oorah!!!!

https://www.ammoland.com/2024/03/understanding-the-various-disciplines-within-the-firearms-training-world/#comment-3018328

musicman44mag

Oh, I ok, now I know why when you mentioned my integrity was in question I didn’t think anything about it because it came from someone with no integrity.

You just busted yourself in a lie. you said you just deleted 5 years worth the comments yet you pull this out of your rectum.

Have a nice day!!!!

musicman44mag

Ya, When I first started I don’t remember seeing him and when I do remember him I know was not more than a year ago. Oh well, you and I and a few others are here and we rule so really nothing else matters. The only thing him and N/Dick, and slip kid and a couple others rule is down votes and just like JSNMGC, DEE and others they come and go and eventually they are gone for good. When the elections are over, he will go back to his video machines and stop trying to influence to not vote… Read more »

musicman44mag

Yep, that’s a fact but I haven’t been here that long myself but I have managed to make a group of haters. LOL. It’s nice to be followed just so someone can down vote me because they hate how I have buried them and made brought them out to be the idiot the truly are. They all hate Trump but after him all there is to elect is lying POS.

musicman44mag

Hum, I did not track that but I bet you are right. I think most the trouble makers that come and go wind up in jail for a while. DEE was here, caused trouble for about 5 months, disappeared for a year and then came back for about 3 more and disappeared again. This time I expect he might be gone for 3 years or more. He probably broke his probation. JSNMGC disappeared and hasn’t been back at all along with a few others, not that I mind. It’s nice to get out here and converse and learn things. I… Read more »

musicman44mag

Yep, out of all the old trouble makers, he is the only one I miss. He He. That should bring him out.

musicman44mag

Yes, that is a proven fact. Whenever a demonrat open it’s mouth it is lying.

Get Out

FYI,
A federal grand jury on Tuesday charged Trump with four felony counts: Conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights. 
Trump indictment: How Michigan, Detroit factor into charges over 2020 election | Bridge Michigan

Get Out

Oomph, that could be tough, wow where to start umm neither one has been convicted of multiple felonies, neither was fined more than half a billion dollars nor defamed E. Jean Carroll and committed financial fraud in any business, neither have three remaining criminal cases against them, neither are sexual predators, neither one has mis-handled classified documents nor shared same with unauthorized persons, neither is accused of election subversion or racketeering in Fulton County, Georgia etc.

Get Out

Donald Trump made more than 30,000 false or misleading statements during his four years as president of the United States, analysis suggests.  The astounding figure, which roughly equates to 21 false statements per day (or 20.94 to be precise) of his tenure at the White House, comes after a tumultuous post election period in which he spent weeks falsely alleging that the 2020 election was “stolen”, in remarks that spurred on his supporters to storm the US Capitol on 6 January.  According to analysis by the Washington Post, Mr Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims between his first day in office,… Read more »

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Get Out

Please note it’s all Presidential Authority not Vice President authority. Don’t care what you are bitching or insinuating. FEMA is on the ground and doing what they can, the best they can. I hope you don’t start blabbing trump or GOP could do better, those people in those devastated areas need help and probably could care less what party you’re from. Major Disaster Declarations. The President can declare a major disaster for any event that has caused damage beyond the combined response capabilities of state and local governments.  A major disaster declaration provides a wide range of federal assistance programs… Read more »

Get Out

Pence isn’t VP, so do you have any proof Kamala wasn’t briefed prior to the storm via video conference, tin cans and string or another viable means?

Biden-Harris Administration Supports Continued FEMA, Federal Family Helene Response | FEMA.gov

Rumor Response.
https://www.fema.gov/profiles/femad8_gov/themes/fema_uswds/images/alert.svg Misinformation and rumors can spread quickly after a disaster. Keep your community safe by being aware of common rumors about Hurricane Helene.

Wild Bill

You are so smug and superficial. Even if she was briefed, could you prove what was in the brief? Even if you could prove that the briefing was factual and thorough, can you prove that she understood the material? If you can prove that she understood the material, can you prove that she cares about the victims? If you could prove that she did care about the victims, can you prove that she has done anything for them?

Get Out

Does it really matter whether it could be proven or not? Briefings are just that, Sop’s are used for planning for upcoming operations, prior to operation, during operation and cleanup efforts. Once an operation is put into play the commander has to let the subordinate commanders do their jobs.

Remarks by Vice President Harris Before a Briefing on the Ongoing Impacts of Hurricane Helene and the Federal Actions Being Taken to Support Emergency Response and Recovery Efforts Across Several States | The White House

Wild Bill

You demanded proof. Now, when proof is demanded of you, proof does not matter.

musicman44mag

Wild Bill. Don’t bother, any proof you get will be from leftist fake news agencies or Faux news if he can find it. This dude is a waste of our time. Can’t learn, wont listen and has it’s mind made up. You know, the good old no common sense or logic problem.

Wild Bill

Yes, fake proof, typical of democrats, illegal aliens, and other evil persons.

Get Out

Did you miss the red letters indication harris spoke prior to a briefing on ongoing recovery efforts of Helene? Click on the red letters and it’ll redirect you to the briefing, loud belly laughing here.

Wild Bill

You do not give orders. I do not read propaganda.

Get Out

Byall means remain ignorant of the “propaganda” provided. If you don’t read the article, how can you dispute the briefings given to harris concerning recovery efforts?

Get Out

IMOA, people on the ground don’t need a dog and pony visit to their operation area until they’re established and can handle a visit because resources have to be averted away from the mission at hand.

Get Out

Please post what her responsibilities are? FEMA has a Chain of Command, and those people are primed to go well in advance.

Get Out

What’s obvious is you don’t understand how the Chain of Command works. A Commander (Biden) issues warning order to his subordinate Commanders (FEMA) who in turn issues their subordinates orders too.

The purpose of the chain of command is to123:

  1. Distribute power and responsibilities.
  2. Keep employees aware of company news.
  3. Create a system for sharing knowledge.
  4. Establish accountability by defining lines of authority and decision-making power.
  5. Promote efficient communication by ensuring information flows smoothly up and down the hierarchy.
Get Out

All you have is the former divider in chief yapping and telling lies and sending out false information and those lies are and have been debunked.

Instead of criticizing everyone doing their job at hand, trump should have said, what can I do to help, instead he’s the millstone around (everyone’s) neck.

FEMA is responding to disaster zones in six states and they’re response has been admirable. I doubt and know any military or disaster operation goes off without a hitch or three, it’s to be expected and delt with as the issue arises.

musicman44mag

He’s so full of shit. The news is talking about Elon not being able to provide communications to the people that have none and even our government doesn’t have the ability that he has. This whole stoppage is to try and control the people because they don’t want others to see that we can take care of ourselves without them. They want us to think that we are dependent upon them to live while they are killing our own people and denying our own people what they need and deserve to try and survive while giving everything to a group… Read more »

Wild Bill

It certainly looks that way.

musicman44mag

He did set it up in some areas and I think they were given free service but not sure. He was providing the satellite receivers for people to use and that is what they stopped. I imagine only a few had it because it is fairly new and expensive and when you are running for your life, who is going to think, hey I need to take my Starlink. For me, though I don’t have it, yet, it would be part of my grab it and throw it on my bugout rig but it would be strictly to try and… Read more »

Get Out

Appears it’s a group effort.

Many private individuals set up Starlink networks and offered free access to their neighbors, and FEMA delivered 40 Starlink systems, plus 25 trailers of meals, 60 trailers of water, and 30 generators to the hardest-hit areas. Governments also set up Starlink networks in places like public shelters and fire departments.

Get Out

Doubt it, when trump instigated the J6 mob to catch and hang Pence, he wouldn’t be here to be VP.

Let’s hope Pence votes for Kamala too.

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Wild Bill

Did you not read Trump’s speech? He called for a peaceful rally.

Get Out

Guffaw, anything but. 44,000 hours of tape shows an unhinged GOP attacking fellow Americans based off of a lie that has yet to be proven. Except of course the fake electors trump and his fellow criminals tried to deceive the American people he won.

Get Out

You did, go back and check your past posts

Get Out

Oh no, that’s terrible, guffaw, I doubt I’ll lose any sleep or cry over a downvote or two.

Get Out

Appears SCOTUS ruled POTUS has immunity to protect trumps criminal activities, that now applies to biden as well. When Harris wins POTUS it’ll apply to her too.

That’s not what Pence said. What the former vice president announced in March is that he would not endorse Trump for president. Pence has not stated whether or not he will vote for him. The only candidate he said he will not choose is President Joe Biden.

Get Out

Speaking of low ratings and lower stock (djt) trumps truth (Liars) social is tanking, he’s looking for buyers like you to help bail him out again.

Get Out

trump Media & Technology Group stock was sliding on Wednesday, after two trading sessions of big gains for the Truth Social parent.
Shares, which trade under the ticker DJT and are majority-owned by former President Donald Trump, fell 4.1% to $20.90, while the small-cap Russell 2000 index was flat.

Wild Bill

Do you own any shares?

Get Out

Nope, do you?

Get Out

I’d invest in lead ammo and booze.

Get Out

Better stock choices would be firearms and booze.

Get Out

Nope, no proof from you, I’ll just consider it another lie.

Get Out

Doubt it, stop scaring yourself with fables.

musicman44mag

Notice how he swallows the pablum full force that it is a group effort and We the People are helping in conjunction with the government rather than the truth and that is that We the People were there taking care of our own first while our own government was neglecting them.

He and his kind make me sick.

Get Out

I concur bigly, trump is a liar and always will be.

musicman44mag

They may be getting hurt the worst but you have the mexicans right in there with them. Basic labor is a job that almost anyone can do but for democraps they are usually too lazy to do hard labor, think their education puts them above menial labor and think that is for the less edumakated coming across the border and those are the jobs they are taking. The better educated jobs like high tech are being taken by the people from India. I would call them Indians but I call the American Indian the Indians. I guess I could call… Read more »

Get Out

Someone correct me if I’m wrong here, trump told the GOP congress to kill the bipartisan border bill. Then the hypocrite whines and lies we have an open border caused by democrats when in fact trump did it.

Get Out

Hail Mary’s? I don’t play football.

IMOA, The Boogeyman, also known as the Boogey Monster or Bogeyman, is a creature that is known by many different names around the world and is used to scare children into behaving. I believe hell is also used in the same mythical way, to scare children and adults.

Get Out

Umm, AKA worry beads, used to keep track of prayer used by many religions.

Get Out

Nope, required college course.

Get Out

Yeah, about that. Search the number of religious colleges out there are in the US that have religious affiliation. chuckling.

  • A significant number of U.S. colleges have a religious affiliation.
  • You don’t have to be religious to attend a religiously affiliated college.
  • Some schools have religious course or event attendance requirements.
Get Out

Yep, The song convoy 1978ish. CB radios were the rage back then and the trucker slang.

Wild Bill

Do you mean that you do not play football anymore or that you never played organized football?

Get Out

Yep.

Wild Bill

He is a pussy! At least he could have been a kicker.

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musicman44mag

Roger that!!!!

Wild Bill

And an equal number of “Our Fathers”!! Then if he crawls to Rome to ask forgiveness, he might have a chance.

Wild Bill

This is so much better than your other written work. Oh, I see … this is not your written work!

musicman44mag

The problem is that you do not have a grasp of real reality. You quote OBIDUM does this or that. He doesn’t even know where the hell he is at much less the pain and suffering of the people that have lost everything that are according to joe “real happy people”

Get a grip.

musicman44mag

Yes and lets not forget when it came to critical decisions that she was always the last to leave the room.

musicman44mag

When it comes to brains and logice, he Gets Out. No way did he get it.

Wild Bill

You are mixing civilian concept and military concepts. Biden directing his cabinet Secretaries, who direct agency heads, is at best an analogy to the Commander in Chief issuing orders to the Sec Def, who then issues orders to Cent Com level commanders.

Get Out

Speaking of trump lies.

Knox County, Tennessee, Mayor Glenn “Kane” Jacobs said that false claims about the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) response to Hurricane Helene are “counterproductive” to officials’ recovery efforts in states hit by the storm last week.
“To my knowledge, FEMA, TEMA [Tennessee Emergency Management Agency], nor anyone else is confiscating supplies,” Jacobs, a WWE Hall of Famer and GOP Tennessee delegate wrote on X (formerly Twitter) early Friday morning. “Please quit spreading those rumors as they are counterproductive to response efforts.”

Pro-Trump Mayor Rips ‘Counterproductive’ FEMA Accusations (msn.com)

musicman44mag
musicman44mag

Oldvet. I think the main point being discussed here is the wrong point. What needs to be discussed is why are the civilian helicopters with food, water and communications being turned away and told if they come back they will be thrown in jail and their chopper confiscated and not given back.

That is the real question. Why is kamlaltoe letting FEMA control the situation when they admit themselves that they don’t have the funds to do squat because they spent it all on the illegals for their vote.

Trump 2024

musicman44mag

I heard that some of the states are looking at extending the time allowed to vote to try and circumvent that from happening. The thing is, was the voting forms destroyed too? I don’t know but I would think that an exception should be made. I know if it was a commie state that got hit, they would make provisions for them.

musicman44mag

RR

musicman44mag

Oh ya. I was one of them. I am on the dark web in 11 different places. Oh well. I changed my BD and name that i use so if anything happens again, I can say, oh really, that’s not my ID info.

We all need multiple identities just like the Muslims.

Get Out

Post your source.

This is as of oct. 3.
In the past two days, 350 supply flights by fixed-winged planes have taken off from the Concord airport, Carroll said. Another 215 supply flights using helicopters have taken off from Hickory Regional Airport, which is about 60 miles northwest of Concord.

Volunteer pilots are flying supplies to trapped Hurricane Helene victims (nbcnews.com)

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
Get Out

Please post her FEMA responsibilities for us to read.

musicman44mag

He’s to stupid to realize that in politics people lie to cover their ass when it is obvious they made a mistake and then have the fake news and leftist judges back it to try and make it look real. Only coolaid drinking sheeple buy their BS.

musicman44mag

I saw the whole thing. Vance ate his lunch.

musicman44mag

Why because the Knuckle head ate too many knuckle sandwiches?

musicman44mag

LMAO, when I heard that, I thought to myself, what a dumbass. He is probably telling the truth and it was a Freudian slip.

Hell, I think the left funds them. Too many coincidences. Vegas, Trump etc.

musicman44mag

Handlers, trainers and are paid off in foreign countries. Trumps shooter messed up that is why they took him out. If he would have killed Trump he would have gotten away, went to his new country with his new identity and had a big fat bank account to draw from.

Wild Bill

A great deal of FEMA emergency money was spent on illegal aliens. The proof is that Myorkas said that the DHS doe not have the money to help the hurricane victims.

musicman44mag

Amen brother, you got it and I have a friend on the radio that was telling me all about it before anyone got the news off of the news because he is a personal friend of that pilot.

So that was straight from the horses mouth now the horses back side news.

Wild Bill

My tolerance for idiots is extremely low these days. I used to have some immunity built up, but obviously, there’s a new strain out there. 

Oldman

Well, when it is a hybrid strain from China, it takes a little bit longer to develop immunity. Don’t betoo hard on yourself, WB.

Get Out

Let’s hope someone is watching the go fund me page trump started which stands at approx. 3 million, he’s known to syphon off money for his personal use.

Have a Garand rest of your day.

Get Out

Vote for whom you wish to vote for as it’s your right.

Wild Bill

Our legitimate votes are being diluted by the votes of illegal aliens. Vote for Harris and we won’t have any Rights.

Get Out

No, there have been multiple audits and very few illegals have the required documents to register to vote. If you remember trump had a fake elector scheme in the works so the cheating was organized by trump and GOP. Voting by people who are not U.S. citizens already is illegal in federal elections and there is no indication it’s happening anywhere in significant numbers. Yet Republican lawmakers at the federal and state levels are throwing their energy behind the issue, introducing legislation and fall ballot measures. The activity ensures the issue will remain at the forefront of voters’ minds in… Read more »

Wild Bill

Illegals voting may already be illegal and they may not have the paperwork, but they are doing it. I have seen them.

Wild Bill

Government at its finest.

Get Out

Appears you’ve got your facts backasswards Learn the truth here. The Republican National Committee is urging the Supreme Court to intervene in an Arizona election dispute this week and block up to 40,000 of the state’s registered voters from casting ballots in the presidential race. Republicans ask Supreme Court to block 40,000 Arizonans from voting – Los Angeles Times (latimes.com) After hundreds of investigative hours, Brnovich says one person was found actually to have been dead, and that “all other persons listed as deceased were found to be current voters.” Brnovich goes on to say that the 282 people who… Read more »

Get Out

Did you report the illegals to election officials so an investigation can be conducted??

Wild Bill

Yes, I shall vote … you down. Thank you for your support.

Get Out

ov, you should work for trumps liars social as their bum scoop specialist.

Fact Check: Did Biden-Harris Migrant Spending Drain FEMA Hurricane Budget? – Newsweek

Get Out

It’s not.

Wild Bill

That sentence makes you look illiterate and therefor unworthy of belief.

Get Out

Appears someone is making sure the money gets to those in need. BZ trump. As of Friday Oct. 4, the initial update on the fundraiser page had been revised, opens new tab  to include the Clinch Foundation and Mtn2Sea Ministries as additional recipients. “As part of our standard process following a crisis, our global Trust & Safety team is in close communication with the fundraiser organizer to ensure that donations are swiftly and safely distributed to those affected by Hurricane Helene,” the GoFundMe spokesperson said. VERDICTFalse. All proceeds, minus a nearly 3% transaction fee per donation, from the Trump-authorized GoFundMe campaign… Read more »

Nick

Thanks to the Lutheran and Catholic charities that’s how MN got over run with Somalians who refuse to assimilate.
They don’t call Minne, I mean Murderapolis, Little Mogadishu for nothing.

Get Out

Appears that was done and done. Appears the former liar in chief and his toady was a step behind FEMA response.

Get Out

As every state governor should if they have supplies to spare, that’s people helping people. Shouldn’t matter if those people are unaffiliated, democrats or republican.

Get Out

Debunked as a lie and you and the former liar in chief knows it.

FEMA Responds to Accusations Money Spent on Migrants – Newsweek

Get Out

Post your source if you can find one, otherwise it’s a lie.

Get Out

Post what you’ve got, otherwise it’s a lie.

Get Out

Can’t prove what you’ve got, definitely a lie.

Wild Bill

Define your terms, otherwise it’s a cheap attempt at manipulation.

musicman44mag

Oh, in his books when someone files charges that means they are guilty. Notice how he uses that to defend his comments about President Trump and how crooked he claims he is. He doesn’t take into consideration that the Supreme Court already ruled on the allegations as not guilty and that the leftist judge is trying to make new charges out of old dismissed ones.

So if congress is investigating it, they should already be locked up according to his standard.

Trump 2024

Get Out

Post your info link please.

swmft

mercury one is the group there doing all the work

swmft

desantis sent a lot of floridas excess supplies

Wild Bill

False or misleading is in the eye of the beholder. For instance, Trump called for a peaceful expression. Your ignoring that is false and misleading. The election was stolen and there is a lot of recored evidence to substantiate that fact. Any other characterization is false and misleading.

DDS

Note that the press keeps hounding GOP politicians, not just Trump and Vance, to get them to say that the 2020 election wasn’t stolen.

Do you see anyone hounding Democrats about their similar claims that Bush the Younger stole his two victories over Gore and Kerry or that Trump stole his victory over Clinton?

And you won’t either!

swmft

he is the one the tank ran over, brain dead cant you tell

swmft

some how would not be surprised if shooter in Pennsylvania was a student of his

Wild Bill

Yes, he is. You can tell from what he says and how he says it. Same phrases as CNN

musicman44mag

Yes, it’s like listening to another fake news station quote for quote, word for word.

Goats FEMA hard at work.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SV-bLn5waVU?si=N5XgrjQaJVqAa0cv

Get Out

I wonder if the person guiding the chopper in knew what the rotor wash was going to do to loose objects on the ground.

Wild Bill

The proof is in your words and phrases. Your phrases and wording come from CNN, et. al.

Get Out

Better than when trump pulls phrases and wording out of his nincompoop hole, et. al

Wild Bill

No. Trump thinks, you parrot.

Get Out

Guffaw and snicker, provide some proof of trump thinking… that buffoon only speaks incoherent rambling and nonsense.

musicman44mag

almost. It was the 20th round was a tracer and the last three. I would hate to dump a mag when it had rounds in it.

Wild Bill

That is no proof. You just read that somewhere or had a conversation with someone.

musicman44mag

Lol, I notice the down votes confirming you are right. I already know from prior conversations that he never served and his responses as well as non responses tells me that he didn’t. Honestly, I don’t think he is that old and he depends on wikipedia to make himself sound like as if he is knowledgeable. The problem with that is, well, it’s Wikipedia and we know the information on that is as trustworthy as the fake news and GO.

musicman44mag

Oldvet
I recall you saying such in the past. simple minds simply forget.

musicman44mag

I didn’t see that but I do recall you him and about 2 others talking about the various calibers and him bragging about all the guns he had and giving specks and information like it came right out of Wikipedia. He doesn’t write well enough to say off the top of his head what I read, that’s how I know he was doing copy and paste and everything he had was specialized. That’s the problem with keyboard warriors. They can say anything and there is no way for them to prove it because no one wants anyone to know who… Read more »

Nick

How does America going to war because AIPAC and Netanyahu said so, America 1st or MAGA?

Wild Bill

No, you are an ignorant, untutored, unpolished free thinker.

Deg4u

Absolutely, you are right.

Wild Bill

Wow. Twenty votes against you. You are impressively … hated.

musicman44mag

Ya, give him his cookie and send him home.

RF

Get Out, you really should re-think trying to bring facts to this reactionary echo chamber. I am reminded of the (now politically incorrect) joke, “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” If downvotes are any metric, you’re not the retarded one here.
Thanks, stay well.
RF

musicman44mag

I tried my best but you managed to put ice cream on the pie.
We are right, proof that we are stronger together than alone.

Trump/Vance 2024

musicman44mag

Yep, Omar is his best friend.

Get Out

Snicker, thanks you’ve posted more trump traits.

jack mac

I did not downvote you this time because you are not worth the time.
Even your Ad hominem remarks are boring.
So, Get Out why don’t you get out?

Get Out

IMOA, probably would have been faster to click downvote than take the time for you to respond.

musicman44mag

If you had common sense and logic you could have come to that conclusion/equation without my help. Yes it is faster to click downvote rather than probably would have been to make a comment.

Considerthis

Don’t forget communist !

musicman44mag

and a lot more.

Get Out

Not true, second POS wrote it in his letter, the government did not put a hit out on trump.

Colt

well, when the DOJ won’t release the Nashville school shooters manifesto and hide behind a classification on everything else then what is a normal thinking person suppose to believe? They very quickly released the document that said the shooter would pay someone $150K to finish the job. the manifesto said what… I failed not it is “up to you to finish the job”. After 2 attempts on the former President, does that make good judgement to quickly release that document so someone else could “finish the job”? If effect, the DOJ did put a hit out on him.. quite obviously,… Read more »

Orion

last i heard it’s not the DOJ who ordered the withholding of its manifesto but a local judge.

Considerthis

The Tennessee Star is a great source of information regarding the Covenant School shooting. The anti-gun mass media did as they always do – blame the gun not the shooter. The story endangered the whole trans movement agenda. Vanderbuilt University needed to be protected from lawsuits as well as the pharmaceutical industry. Mental illness is rampant in our population now. Judging by the posts by Get Out it really sounds like he has a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It sounds like he would like to “finish the job ” While I am implying Get Out may be mentally… Read more »

jack mac

Get Out seems too dumb enough to take the contract and stupid enough not to get the money upfront.

Deg4u

AMEN AND AMEN

Deg4u

AMEN AND AMEN the truth hurts don’t it?

Montana454Casull

That would be ” head stuck in ass syndrome ” your referring too I take it ?

Considerthis

So you believe whatever a POS says. That explains much of what you post !

Deg4u

The way all dems has been talking about Trump was all it took for these wackos to try to assassinate him. Their rhetoric of Trump has been and still is the disgusting thing that can happen to anyone.

Nick

It was the CIA… Trying to do another JFK.

musicman44mag

Oh, and you know for a fact that the information provided is true because your fake news sources say so. You need to wake up. Our government has been corrupted and they and the fake news that you swallow every day are lying to us and the Trump attempted assassinations are no different than Kennedy. This guy has ties to middle eastern countries etc, etc, etc, and no I will not provide sources because as i have stated in the past, you need to change the Fing dial and I do not need to do the homework for you. End… Read more »

Get Out

You can’t post any sources because you haven’t any.

Get Out

Ribs, pork or beef and what recipe do you use to make them?

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musicman44mag

He uses one that he got off of a republican web site because we all know recipe from fake news web sites taste like shit because they cant tell the difference from what is good or bad. The story lies in their judgement but it’s not their fault their brains are wired different.

Here’s your sign.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092984/

Get Out

Appears you’ve eaten fecal matter and know the taste well; you should keep that culinary delight to yourself from now on.

musicman44mag

If I did you wouldn’t have your daily diet and would starve so eat fecal matter and live!!!!

Get Out

Nope, you told on yourself and now everyone knows your culinary tastes. guffaw.

musicman44mag

My taste is for quality which I know, the shit food I ate was from democraps that don’t know what good food is who’s minds are warped because mommy didn’t know how to cook and everything they ate came from a box a can or a frozen meal. For democraps it’s the chemicals they go for and not the spices because they don’t know which goes where or how and they can’t even follow a recipe. To them Betty Crocker is a person from another country that mommy used to say knew how to cook but it was to complicated… Read more »

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musicman44mag

Oldvet. LOL, it’s the weekend. Have you ever noticed that the left is out here more in full force on the weekend? I have.

Their what I call weekend warriors because they can’t handle the fight for a full 365 like the rest of us.

musicman44mag

No, they are to busy watching kiddy porn and planning their boyfriends next abortion.

musicman44mag

It’s ok, we know who believes and who doesn’t and that there are large contingents in Minnesota that don’t.

musicman44mag

I didn’t see the Amish comment but I did see the Pennsylvania. The Amish are a good people, not because of their religion but because of the people that they are. When their power goes out and they are not able to get fuel for their tractors to plow the field they won’t have any problem adapting at all because they have draft horses for plowing, land to grow crops, seed to make more, animals to eat and when that happens I am pretty sure they will stop selling to the public and take care of their own because money… Read more »

musicman44mag

When I was younger i couldn’t drink pasteurized and raw milk is all I drank. I still love it but you cannot get it anymore in Oregoneistan unless you own the cow.

musicman44mag

or cream for my coffee in the morning back when I used it from the top of the glass milk jug. Notice I said glass.

musicman44mag

I would have taken that out in trade.

Deg4u

If you know where a dairy is you can go their to get some. When I drove a big truck I stopped at a dairy and asked if I could buy a gallon of milk and he said no he would give it to me. That milk was the best tasting milk-I’ve had in a good while.

musicman44mag

I bet it was. No preservatives and real cow milk without the good stuff being cooked off. I don’t know why they cook it and kill all of the good bacteria that fights colds, flue and other stuff.

swmft

you dont remember atf going after amish gun smith and dealer ?

musicman44mag

Maybe. I think I might have read an article on that but do know if I did, it was on Ammoland.

Get Out

Buck or Doe ribs? I’ll put a couple bacon strips on venison ribs with onions and apple juice because it keeps them moist. I make my own teriyaki jerky too.

I use a Pearson compound 62 lb. draw and use Muzzy 3-blade 125 gr. broadheads and construct my own arrows for length, spine weight and fletching. Arrows chronograph at 294 fps.

I use a CVA .45 cal. muzzleloader during muzzleloader season, 12 ga., 30-30 win. and 30.06 during centerfire gun season.

Good luck on the elk when you go out.

Nick

So you use two rifles and a shot gun to hunt deer with?

Nick

It wouldn’t surprise me. He sounds about as much of a hunter and shooter as John Kerry and Tim Walz. Here in Minnesota we have what’s called “firearms” season, which means the southern half of the state is slug guns only, the northern half is rifles. Then post “firearms” season, is another season, “muzzleloader”. So a lot of people here hunt the “firearms” season with either a shot gun or a rifle, then have a muzzleloader if they don’t fill their tags to use during muzzleloader season. And the archery season is four months long. But I’ve never heard of… Read more »

Nick

The only time I’ve ever seen “30.06” is in novels where the writer clearly doesn’t know a thing about guns… Or online in a comments section when some wannabe Rambo that doesn’t know anything about anything decides to shoot his mouth, I mean fingers off…

Nick

Don’t forget Burt Gummer!
(He’ll have to look that one up too…)

Nick

Now that one’s not ringing a bell for me.

Nick

Funny!

Nick

Some time ago, you posted I was a basement desperado, and now you wanna talk to me? Lame.

Nick

What I was referring to was a comment you posted about a month ago.
You talk trash about somebody behind their back, then they find out about and you expect them to be responsive to you?
As far as logic goes, I’m the same old me.

musicman44mag

Oh, really!! What brand of Teriyaki sauce do you use. LMAO

If you have to use bacon, onions and apple juice then you can’t handle the real taste of venison. Dry rub is best and if you didn’t get enough on there then Sweet Baby Rays but that ruins the flavor for me.

musicman44mag

Well, I guess but just don’t tell them to moisten the wood chips so they smoke better and don’t catch fire. I want them to spend the whole day bent over the coals with a spray bottle spraying to keep the flames down. He he!!!! If we could get NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS to say it is better if you pee on the chips it takes the wild taste out of the meat, they would be telling us all about it and swear that it is true because it said so on their fake news. LMAO, time for dinner.… Read more »

musicman44mag

Amen. Like I said earlier they wouldn’t be able to follow the recipe and they wouldn’t like the taste of it because it wont have all the preservatives, dies and chemicals that they are used to eating because they have eaten nothing but shit in a box or can all their lives.

The sight of blood from a dead animal would send them into convulsions and tears for the poor animal and make them a vegetarian for life after they woke up from passing out.

Get Out

They want you to subscribe, so no thanks.

musicman44mag

He needs to call comrade Omar.

musicman44mag

Oldvet. She went to the boarder. Did you notice her taking questions from the press? Hell no, only another speech just like ObiDUMB.

Can’t wait until Tuesday. I know Vance will bury tampon tim and he will turn it around on the commentators when he needs too.

musicman44mag

Readem and weap, I was right!!!!!!

nrringlee

The greatest mass killer in modern history is government.

musicman44mag

Yes, starting with our food supply and medicines.

Tionico

Biden sure let alot of illegals that formed gangs into the Country.

He did not “let them in” he invited them then provided free transportation tp get here, then free accomodations and food now they ARE here.

GomeznSA

Tio – you forgot the mention that he flew bunches of the interlopers all over the Republic, usually in the dark of night and without bothering to notify the locals what he was doing.

J.galt

There was a coup in the U.S. in Nov 1963. EVERY member of congress, the senate and the executive branch since then (except the Pauls….and maybe Trump) is / has been in on it. We have been taken over like slow boiled frogs by the one world government nazis and this can’t be solved by showing up one at a time. We need to take our country back stop pissing down my back and telling me about a free country. The constitution is being rendered symbolic and meaningless. If we do not stand up and show up in meaningful numbers… Read more »

musicman44mag

I hope that what you say doesn’t mean that you are not going to vote because you think it is a waste of time. This vote is our last hope to give peace a chance for a change in power. Vote anyway even if you think it is a waste of time because it might not be and we need visible numbers at the polls to show that we did win. Cameras and people are on guard and the evidence will be overwhelming and when judges disagree it will be seen and shown as them being traitors and not like… Read more »

J.galt

Hi Music

No it does not! I will vote in person for 2A, peace and against communists but it’s with both eyes open that we, as American citizen patriots are being sold out and pissed on daily

musicman44mag

I can’t argue that at all. I just wished my eyes would have been opened to it all when I was 18. I really believed in government and joined the Marines and was proud to be a part of it until I was told time and time again that they owned me. I thought it was just part of the mind game training that we were receiving and I shrugged it off as if it was nothing but then the swine flue came and they gave us an experimental shot and told us about it afterwards. It made me sick… Read more »

musicman44mag

Awesome request.

J.galt

Agreed. I get it. I vote!

musicman44mag

Amen!!!

J.galt

Who is down voting these and why?

musicman44mag

Leftist, anti Christians NWO Islamist’s that hate Israel and the Jewish people that are probably stationed in Minnesota. I don’t know why so many are down on the Jewish. They are Gods children and to hate them is to hate God. My mother who was German and claimed to be a Christian hated the “Jews”. She called them Yuts or Youts. Don’t know what it means but I am sure it is the equivalent to calling the Japanese Japs or the Chinese Chinks. It doesn’t really matter anyway. They use their downvote but don’t have the balls to step up… Read more »

musicman44mag

awaiting

Nick

It’s not going to be simple to debate, argue, sway a nation who for over 100 years has been brain washed via the “school” system, college, media-news and entertainment. And now the internet.
It’s not going to be easy.

grant

And not One Single Word About Locking up Bad Guys and Throwing Away the Key……..

Nick

It’s called Anarcho-Tryrany…

jack mac

“Anarcho-Tyranny”: Its meaning and use should be widely spread and used more often.

Nick

I think the reason it’s not is that most talking heads on the right are in denial as to what’s actually going on in this once great republic.

swmft

most of the “conservative” leaders are not conservative and they marginalize the tea party, and any other group, that is conservative

Nick

Yes and there’s nothing republican about the Republican Party either.

Darkman

Gun violence has long been a necessary evil in liberal progressive democrats war on the 2nd Amendment. Because they know without it they have nothing to scare their acolytes with. This is little more than a ploy to sate the screaming of those acolytes to ‘Do Something”. Knowing full well that it will have no effect on criminals illegal firearms use

Darkman

2 words Qualified Immunity that was mandated by extra judicial powers. Meaning it had no basis in current law. In 1967, the United States Supreme Court introduced qualified immunity in Pierson v. Ray to protect police officers from financial liability after they arrested 15 clergy members for breaching the peace after they attempted to use a segregated waiting room at a bus station. That particular court was considered the most liberal court in Supreme Court history.

swmft

that and taking property without trial civil asset forfeiture, both should be ruled what they are unconstitutional theft and violation of rights

Nick

What is “gun violence”? I’ve never met a gun that was violent…

GomeznSA

It is an ambiguous term with no legal definition that was ‘invented’ by no known person (at least no one will admit to it) to scare people. It is in the same category as “assault weapon” but at least we do know who invented that particular term (art agnos in kalypornia about 5 decades ago).

Nick

I was being sarcastic.

Ledesma

Maybe they’ll extend the new “extra-extended” background check again. Their goal is a background screen nobody passes.

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Silver Creek

Gun shop owner told me more people getting ” delayed” on purchasing a gun.
Said even cops getting a ” delayed”. And they get pissed.

GomeznSA

SC – what benighted state is that happening in?
I try to not buy anything (not that I really ‘need’ any more) that requires a ‘background check’ – my state doesn’t ‘require’ such if one has an LTC in hand, dealer still has to enter the transaction in the bound book though.

musicman44mag

Oregoneistan is one of them. I actually saw a cop, in uniform, on the job, trying to buy a gun and he was denied. The store clerk told him that he knew he was a good guy and that he wanted to sell him the gun but because he could not pass the check he couldn’t. The cop was mad as hell. I told him you need to get hold of your commander and have him call HQ in Portland and find out what the hell is wrong. You guys are cops and if you can’t buy a gun because… Read more »

Ram

I knew a fellow in security, who had been denied,
It was because of his security position there were periodic background checks. A recent check will show up, and automatically trigger a hold response. The hold can then be rescinded.

Montana454Casull

We the people do not need more gun control , what we need is more idiot controls on the idiots in DC . Put them all on an island and let them govern each other and leave the citizens out of thier ignorance

Tionico

Let me suggest Martha’s Vineyard. Lots of space, a few posh houses, and a golf course. Keep sending them there until they get it all sorted out.

musicman44mag

Add Hawaii to that list too. That is where all the rich seem to be piling up thinking that they will be free from the effects of the civil war they created.

swmft

would be good fit and the only place they could go from there is china

GomeznSA

swm – they can help build that international bridge to red china that slow joe proposed – one way of course 😉

Oldman

That, my friend, would be a horrible waste of a perfectly good lifeboat. Much cheaper to give them all a high speed lead supplement.

musicman44mag

Nope, you have a naval battle carrier group, small Army contingent and Navy AF pilots as well as Marine Pilots and the fact that there are Marines there, I doubt that they will take it. In addition, we don’t know what lurks in the waters just outside the Island and Obummer, zuckerberg, clinton, Al Whore and other high political operatives and rich people have homes and bunkers there. It’s the new paradise Island where the new eutopia is going to be but of course that is my opinion. Politicians and rich people that are armed and the slaves will have… Read more »

nrringlee

Defective premises yield defective solutions. Case in point.

Laddyboy

What is the “point” of this nearly 3,000 word salad by the RADICALIZED Biden/Harras regime? The POINT is to add RESTRICTIONS and INFRINGMENTS upon Legal Law Abiding American Citizens!

Ram

The attempt to pass a bill or an executive action, that has as its
purpose, the creation of an impediment to the Bill of Rights, shall
be deemed to be an act of treason. Under the1995 precedent of
the “Defense of women” act, a provable act of treason, shall not
be subject to a statute of limitations.

Tionico

to help keep students safe in the event of gun violence in schools.”

How about training and arming very adult who works a the school on safe and effective firearm handling, such that IF some cray student or other person shows a gun and begins to use it to harm, any/all of said armed and trained adult will be able and willing to neutralise the threat.

Ohio’s FASTER Saves Lives programme is amazing.. has reduced incidents involving firearms at Ohio schools o ZERO, and costs NOTHING for the taxpayers.

GomeznSA

Tio – agreed with the caveat that only those willing to be so trained and armed should be. Since waaaaay too many indoctrinators oops educators are bleeding heart liberals they would likely wet their diapers in a life or death confrontation. Of course they will claim they are willing to do ‘whatever’ ‘for the children’……………

BK

For everyone here that has common sense. Old vet, mm44, and all (didn’t mean to tip off the goat) but we have been warned: FBI Whistleblower Urges Americans to Vote, Arm Yourself, Stock up on Food and Water, and Pray (rumble.com)

Oldvet

BK … Thank You … That is a video every one should watch ! Pay attention and realize that what Mr. White is talking about should awaken a lot of you ” J,galt” and others this is exactly what .. get out’s .. idols are pushing at this country ! Mr. White is in a position to know !

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Arizona

They are going to claim in the report that Glocks and AR’s are readily converted, and are thus already machine guns, that must be registered under the Unconstitutional Nfa. They don’t care about thugs with switches, they care about citizens that won’t allow a tyrannical government to tell them how to live. They fear n independent and armed populace.

DIYinSTL

On another note, the Biden administration just used government resources to distribute campaign literature for Harris. If you are old enough for Medicare you may have gotten an email with the subject line of “A message from President Biden on Medicare Open Enrollment”. It informs us of all the wonderful extra new benefits brought to us with the help of VP Harris. I think there a law against this.

musicman44mag

That is a true statement. I have a friend in Georgia that told me he got one.

musicman44mag

Hell, he even referred to her as the president at one time.

nrringlee

The Trump 47 Administration needs to form a task force entitled “Emerging Threats to Our Constitutional Republic” and make it an arm of the Department of Defense. Treat subversives like subversives for a change.

This Harris/Biden regime last ditch effort is simply a means to embed partisan hacks from the various astro turf gun grabber groups in the federal bureaucracy and on the federal payroll. It is simply a payoff for the drones who have worked diligently for the debunked astro turf groups. Nothing more.

Laddyboy

Executive Action = A WISH LIST that is wanted by the signer, whether the signer is a Constitutionalist or an ANTI-Constitutionalist. In this case, the signer is an EMPTY, order following, SUIT that is controlled by the S.E.S. COUNCIL, Barry Soetoro-0bama, Biden and IMP Harras!!

gregs

more word salad from this administration, just different person.
many law enforcement agencies do not report their crimes statistics to the fbi so the fbi report is no accurate.
and it seems like this administration doesn’t care what scotus has ruled on and is attempting to restrict or ban privately manufactured firearms. speaks of the character of the people in charge.
that out of home firearm storage solution was not thought of by a member of mensa.

Wild Bill

Like Dave writes in the Nov. issue of Guns Magazine: We have a chance to overthrow the Congress and Executive branch without firing a shot.
Gentlemen … the revolution is here!

Boom

Dang…. This GET OUT guy is a dumbface…you have TDS, bad.

Rockman1977

A task force from that cabal is a fake force.

Exigent

US MILITARY MAY NOW KILL US CITIZENS ON ORDERS FROM EXECUTIVE BRANCH (no inconveniencing that ‘silly’ Congress or ‘wrong-thinking’ SCOTUS, or that ‘pesky’ US Constitution.) The Biden/Harris administration ordered a NEW and damning MASSIVE legal change to the US Department of Defense Directive 5240.01 (aka DODD 5240.01) The US Military now can be instantly authorized at any time by the US Secretary of Defense to use LETHAL FORCE to assist civilian law enforcement during just about ANY “confrontation” between civilian police and civilians. You just need to interpret and parse things a certain way. (note1). This was not in the… Read more »

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Jim from LI

What are they expecting to find in an extended background check for under-21s? They haven’t lived enough to create a history. A bad SAT score and they cut a class or two in senior year?

Darkman

Lets be honest here our nation is already full of violent criminals with criminal records that are as young as 12 years old and younger. I read almost everyday about some juvenile attacking someone with a gun or a knife.

swmft

raised by the state

musicman44mag

countries or counties?

musicman44mag

I know, I know. We are in a sad state of affairs and we need Trump back in office. He won’t be able to fix everything but I pray to God he wins and we take both the house and the senate and this time the good people will outnumber the swamp rats, if that is possible, and we can get headed in the right direction. Notice ObiDUMB said that we are closer to WWIII than ever before yesterday? I still say that he will retire and that kamalatoe will be the first bitch president and that the treaty between… Read more »