U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- The Progressive left has complained vociferously about the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict. One of their strident hypotheticals is to claim a black man in Kyle’s situation would never have made it to trial, let alone been found not guilty by a jury. From Julian Castro on twitter:
You know damn well that if Kyle Rittenhouse were Black he would have been found guilty in a heartbeat—or shot dead by cops on the scene.
This is demonstrably false.
A case that received no attention in the national media has numerous similarities to the Kyle Rittenhouse case. Davion L. Jones was found not guilty in a jury trial.
The events of the case happened on March 28, 2020, in LaPorte, Indiana. The events of the Rittenhouse case happened on August 25, 2020, in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Davion L. Jones, 21, of Chesterton, Indiana, traveled to a different town and was approached by a hostile crowd. Davion fired several shots, killing one white man and wounding a black man.
Davion drove to the LaPorte County Sheriff’s Department and turned himself in. Police found a .40 caliber Glock with a 50 round magazine in the car.
Chesterton is in Indiana. It is south and east of Chicago about the same distance that Antioch, where Kyle Rittenhouse resided, is north and west of Chicago.
Chesterton is about 17 miles from port. Antioch, Kyle Rittenhouse’s home was about 15 miles from Kenosha.
Juries in both cases found the shooters to have acted in self-defense.
Jones was held on a 15,000 dollar bond. He was charged with reckless homicide. From hometownnews.com:
Christopher wanted to pick up his girlfriend’s daughter because she was being harassed by a group of individuals, according to courtroom testimony.
When they pulled up, the evidence shows Christopher stepped out of the car and was surrounded.
The defendant stayed in the car and said a man approached him with a gun.
He says the man, Stanley Henderson, pointed the gun at him.
Fearing for his safety, Davion Jones told police he started firing with his eyes closed at Henderson who was shot multiple times.
The 21-year old Henderson survived.
One of the rounds hit Terusiak who was off in the distance a bit, authorities said.
Police say Terusiak died from a gunshot to the heart.
So far, Jones has not been charged with shooting with Henderson, claiming that was self defense.
Jones of Chesterton was being held on $15,000 bond.
Jones said he was not initially aware if he had shot anyone. I have not seen any evidence that Terusiak was armed.
Stanley Henderson’s mother, Ruska Vraniskoski, started a GOFUNDME account for his recovery.
Over a year later, after a more complete investigation, a witness was found who said Henderson, the person Jones wounded with multiple shots, did not have a gun. The witness was reported to have been across the street, looking out from an upstairs window.
The charge was changed to murder and the bond was raised to $500,000, in July and August of 2021. From hometownnews.com:
Davion Jones was originally charged in La Porte Circuit Court with Level 5 felony reckless homicide. However, prosecutors on Friday upped the charge to murder. The 22-year old Chesterton man is charged with killing 20-year-old Tyler Terusiak last year in the 1400 block of Jefferson Ave.
Kyle Rittenhouse’s bond was set at $2,000,000.
Both Kyle Rittenhouse and Davion L. Jones turned themselves into the authorities as soon as they could.
The Jones trial was held in November – December of 2021. Jones took the stand in his own defense, as did Kyle Rittenhouse at his trial.
On December 9th, Davion Jones was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, of all charges, within three weeks of the Rittenhouse verdict.
Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed two white men and wounded one white man. All of the people he shot had pursued him and were attacking him while he was on foot, retreating. One of the men, Joseph Rosenbaum, was unarmed but had threatened to kill Kyle, pursued Kyle, and grabbed for his rifle.
The other man Kyle killed attacked Kyle with a skateboard and tried to take Kyle’s rifle from him.
The third man Kyle shot, Gaige Grosskreutz, was pointing a pistol at Kyle when Kyle shot him.
Davion Jones, a black man, shot and wounded Stanley Henderson, who appears to be a black man. Davion shot and killed Tyler Terusiak, a white man, some distance away. Henderson and Terusiak appear to have been friends.
It appears no weapons were found on or near either Terusiak or Henderson. Henderson was approaching Jones while Jones sat in a car.
Both cases had uncooperative witnesses. Both Rittenhouse and Jones fired multiple shots.
Rittenhouse did not hit anyone he did not intend to hit. Jones claimed he did not intend to hit Terusiak.
There are hundreds of hours of videos involving Rittenhouse. The video was shown extensively in court. There may have been one video of the Davion Jones incident. I do not know if it was shown in court.
The incidents occurred in two different Midwest states, Wisconsin and Indiana.
Jones was given a much lower bond than Rittenhouse.
Jones faced charges, but no weapons charges. The murder charge against Jones was levied 8 months after the shooting, after considerable investigation.
The murder charges against Rittenhouse were levied within 36 hours, with little investigation. The charges against Rittenhouse included an unfounded weapons charge.
Both Jones and Rittenhouse faced what may have been considered hostile crowds. Rittenhouse was actively pursued. Henderson approached the car Jones was in.
Rittenhouse was legally and openly carrying a Smith & Wesson MP15 rifle with a 30 round magazine. Jones had a Glock pistol with a 50 round magazine in the car. It was probably not visible to the people outside.
It was not reported if Jones had an Indiana handgun license. It seems likely he did. He was not charged with the illegal possession of a handgun.
Both men, one white, one black, were found not guilty of all counts in jury trials.
While there are similarities and differences, the differences in treatment by the authorities appear to be in Davion L. Jones favor, not in Kyle Rittenhouse’s favor. There is no evidence Terusiak was a threat to Davion L. Jones.
A black man can kill an unarmed white man and be found not guilty in a jury trial. It happened in Indiana, not far in distance or time from the Kyle Rittenhouse case in Wisconsin.
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There is not enough info here to say much about Jones, what he did and the circumstances but comparing the two, Rittenhouse had LOTS of undeniable video evidence showing him 100% justified in shooting all four men, missing one completely. Even with all of this evidence, he was run through the cleaner with charges, bail, lock up time, propaganda news media attention. This did not happen to Jones. Part of this was because of the tool he used, an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine vs a hand gun with a 50 round magazine, part of this may be age… Read more »
Kyle’s problem is that he was brave enough to stand against the accepted meme for the City Cartel there in Kenosha. Remember rioting had gone on for at lest thr nights, a couple billion dollars in property dmage, mostly in the lower income areas of the town. Seems those in control of the city had decided this was a good thing. Then along comes this punk kid with a Black and Ugly, and that was the end of their show. True story… that night was the last of the signficant rioting in Kenosha, and in many other such places accross… Read more »
The Rittenhouse acquittal also put blm and antifa and anyone else who would riot on notice; There are good people out there who will defend themselves and anyone else who needs defending.
Arm up and carry on
There simply is not a much racism around as the left constantly claims. I suspect those that never seem to be able to get off the subject are projecting their own racism on others.
The Progressive New Left has had to depend upon ‘racism’ and ‘sexism’ to fuel their Gramsci and Marx inspired rage machine. The propaganda surrounding race and sex is simply designed to divide people along arbitrary lines and keep them divided. The left focuses on race and sex and now ‘gender’ in order to keep people divided. An interesting distinction in this case may be found in how local law enforcement initially described both altercations and the conditions surrounding the altercations. Kenosha was clearly a riot from the outset. Less clear is LaPorte. Riots imply much different conditions for self defense.… Read more »
Your first paragraph is spot on… and very clarl laid out as a plan of action in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Divide into factions on any basis set any one faction agasint one or more other factions, stir the pot until chaos ensues, then step up and announce “all this will end if you let US implement our Final Solution”. This will work as long as masks keep working for the WooFlew. And tht will be until WE decide ENOUGH and stop playing THEIR game. I say we remove all indicators of the race of a given person on all… Read more »
And there is a lot of money in it for the race hustlers, too. MC!
that is most likely what is happening
Just another example of all the “white privilege” going around. These two actors, while both were found innocent, where not treated equally under the law. The clear privilege in this instance went to the black actor.
Once again, the far left is outed for their horrible bias and lies.
Kyle Rittenhouse killed 3 member of “The Tribe.” And, as Shakespeare noted in “The Merchant of Venice”. They demanded their “Pound of Flesh!” Fortunately, the Jury h ought differently!
Sorry. Killed wounded 1.
That is OK. We knew what you meant. MC!
The name Rosenbaum is German. There is no evidence of them being MOTs.
One glaring difference between the two besides firearm type and actual physical attacks on Kyle and a pulled pistol pointed at his face, is Kyle had a 2 million dollar bond and was charged with murder whereas Jones a 15k bond and charged with reckless homicide.
That 50 round mag must have been hell to maneuver inside a car, just sayin’. Not exactly a concealable firearm.
Of course Castro’s statement was a lie from the beginning, he’s a leftist. Jones, is not the only example in recent history either.
Everybody keeps saying Rosenbaum was unarmed but he was carrying a chain. You can see it in the fbi drone film when Rosenbaum came up behind Kyle.
chains and industrial grade skateboards are still lethal weapons as used that night, and in all other riots. Don’t be fooled.
What’s really amazing is that he did not get convicted if he admitted in court that he fired the gun with his eyes closed. While self-defense is perfectly legal, you’re forbidden to blindly spray bullets around in a self-defense situation. That changes your situation from legally justified armed self-defense to reckless discharge of a firearm. if you’re shooting at a criminal and your bullet either misses or passes through him and hist someone else that’s the fault of the criminal. Since he wasn’t aiming, and his bullet hit and killed a bystander, I think a conviction on negligent homicide is… Read more »
A picture is worth a thousand words, eh? Thanks for sharing that educational video on behavior modification techniques.
What is missing from that CCT is that background music that goes:
da, da, da, da, RUN!, Duh, Da, Da, DA…
The 2A had better be for everybody, or it might as well be for nobody.
Certainly true! Welcome to Ammoland. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Firearm.
I hope someone offers and helps mr jones get better training, he lives in a dangerous place, and now the gangs will target him
with luck Colin Niur will reach out to him bring him in the circle accuracy matters 50 rounds was chosen because he cant shoot, spray and pray is not good, could have killed someones kid
Heh heh heh sweet. -Cartman
This horse is dead. Merry Christmas to all.
Why did he need a 50 round mag? What was his intent for having such a large capacity magazine? To close your eyes and start shooting blindly is an act of stupidity. No weapons found near the victim that was shot!! Sounds like a white wash to me.
First, Why not? Second, stupidity or complete terror? Third, neither of these questions are relevant to the self defense analysis. Finally the facts of Jones’ case were measured by the law not emotion. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Shooting Accessory.
While I have no issues with the mag, I do have one with the idea of closing my eyes and blasting away.
He or anyone else certainly doesn’t NEED you or anyone else telling us how many rounds is OK. Whether he defended himself with an AM-180 or a claymore, deadly force is deadly force. Stupid yes to close his eyes, but that doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not it was done in self defense. Fear can make you do stupid things.
Same reason I need a fifteen.. or a thirty…. or maybe a drum 100.
MY business and no one else’s.
Wolf Blitzer? Is that you?
Why do you need Washington Wizards and Buffalo Bills tickets?
I might question his gear choices and his tactics, but there is no arguing with results. He was attacked and escaped alive. I don’t know facts of the case. Seems Davion accidentally shot and killed a semi-innocent bystander. Most of us train with assumption that hitting anyone else will cost us heavily. In short, it sounds as though Davion could have used some good training, including equipment advice. My guess is that Davion’s training and gear budget is a serious constraint. While a fifty round 40cal mag would not be my first choice for a handgun – you fight with… Read more »